<p>The next VP of the United States, that is.</p>
<p>Sources:</a> Obama picks Joe Biden as VP candidate - CNN.com</p>
<p>There's no better choice out there. Every VP candidate has their flaws and Biden adequately addresses Obama's biggest flaw, lack of experience.</p>
<p>Biden is the Chairman of the Foreign Relations Committee and was the chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee for 7 years. He's been serving on it for two decades.</p>
<p>He can also be very tough which is a necessity for a VP. But the way he's tough is great. He's always smiling and you can tell he's a good person. He and McCain are friends.</p>
<p>Yes, Biden said some things about Obama but with rumors coming out about McCain picking Romney, Romney and McCain had an uglier battle than Obama/Biden. Obama/Hillary was the real fight and as you can see he didn't pick her.</p>
<p>I'm really glad Obama picked Biden. Biden's one of the few democrats who isn't afraid to say what he thinks. The only other one that comes to mind that was in the primaries is Dennis Kucinich. Biden is pretty controversial, but I like that.</p>
<p>It's way better to **** some people off than to never take a position and be a complete pussy on every issue.</p>
<p>All in all, I don't know really know if it'll help Obama. Even though the Obama presidency is more appealing now, I know it won't be very different than if he had picked a different VP.</p>
<p>Nevertheless, good choice by Obama.</p>
<p>EDIT: Wow, pi$$ is censored...</p>
<p>This is going to scare conservatives even more. Obama+Biden=very liberal.</p>
<p>ummmm Biden is slowly growing on me as the more I read about him the more that I like him </p>
<p>but</p>
<p>I still don't understand why Obama didn't choose Hillary!!
This was BY FAR the smartest choice for the sake of winning the election. Sure they hate eachother, and it would erase this message of "Change" but for the sake of controlling the oval office it would be worth it.
Cus once Obama got nominated about a quarter of Clinton's supporters jumped ship to McCain. An Obama Clinton would unify the party, bring those voters back, and help in some key states in which Hillary kicked Barack's ass in during the primaries (Pennsylvania). I believed Obama was smarter than that, and that he'd be able to come to this conclusion himself.
And I don't like Clinton by any means, but if it would mean an easier road to the White House than I am for this "Dream Ticket"</p>
<p>Cus once Obama got nominated about a quarter of Clinton's supporters jumped ship to McCain. An Obama Clinton would unify the party, bring those voters back, and help in some key states in which Hillary kicked Barack's ass in during the primaries (Pennsylvania). I believed Obama was smarter than that, and that he'd be able to come to this conclusion himself.</p>
<p>I agree with you to an extent, and believe me the same train of thought passed through my mind. </p>
<p>But, on the other hand, there is a huge constigency of people out there (both liberal and conservative) who absolutely loathe the Clintons, and have a personal vendeta against them, for reasons I don't quite understand. There are plenty of people who wanted a democratic president, but flocked over to Obama in order to ensure that it wasn't Hillary. So while Obama choosing Hillary would land him the votes of Hillary supporters, he'd also probably lose the votes of all those Clinton-haters and he'd be back at square one. </p>
<p>I hope Obama wins this campaign, but I would have been happy with Hillary too. In all honesty, I can't really see anything that really differentiates them based on their political viewpoints; they're pretty similar. Anyway, I've never been able to comprehend why people have such an intense hatred for the Clinton family.</p>
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I still don't understand why Obama didn't choose Hillary!!
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<p>Because McCain could run ads showing Hillary saying that all Obama is is a speech. Obama doesn't need to be outflanked by his own VP.</p>
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Cus once Obama got nominated about a quarter of Clinton's supporters jumped ship to McCain. An Obama Clinton would unify the party
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<p>Hmm, I doubt that a quarter of Hillary voters will actually jump to McCain, as opposed to just threatening to do so. </p>
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help in some key states in which Hillary kicked Barack's ass in during the primaries (Pennsylvania).
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<p>Hillary only did well in Pennsylvania (and states like West Virginia) because she was running against a black liberal. Once the voters there have a choice between the Obama ticket and the McCain ticket, Hillary will go back to what they always perceived her as: a socialist anti-family lesbian man-hater.</p>
<p>Yawn...</p>
<p>The way that I see Joe Biden coming across various media outlets like CNN...is an angry, self-assured, arrogant, partisan. Counter to Obama's message of building bridges.</p>
<p>Joe Biden won't get much people on board or out of board. He's safe.</p>
<p>Hillary, would've enthused the Democratic base, Hispanics, the 18 million that voted for her, the working class whites that voted for Bill. Although Republicans would be more enthused to vote a Clinton out...except they hate Obama enough already anyway :D</p>
<p>"Because McCain could run ads showing Hillary saying that all Obama is is a speech."</p>
<p>You are funny Chris.
YouTube</a> - Joe Biden On Barack Obama
:D</p>
<p>"..a black liberal"</p>
<p>What does black have anything to do with it? At least you mentioned he's a liberal.</p>
<p>How about McCain's opposition to ethanol subsidies,
his support for the surge that has greatly improved the situation that Democrats wanted to withdraw out of last year,
his 0 earmarks, </p>
<p>Obama's lack of humor, his arrogance, his ego, his academia (not intelligence..re: long winded answers at Rick Warren form), his stupidity (president biden, 57 states)</p>
<p>lol stupidity? Call it slip-ups when speaking. McCain has had way more of those. I'd say McCain is the stupid one considering he almost finished last in his class, doesn't know how many houses he owns and thinks 5mil/yr is the cutoff for rich. But to each his own.</p>
<p>Really this was a terrible terrible terrible choice. i am a very conservative republican and point blank, if Hillary clinton would have been the nominee I would have voted for her in an instant, point blank.
I really do not know what Dems are doing, this election should have been thiers hand down. First they pick Obama, who if anybody saw the Democrats, was a VERY weak person. When he was placed up by clinton she went balls out and attacked, staring right in his face. And every time Barak would look at the ground and mumble about change. This was a terrible decision, not only does this cut off those VERY wealthy friends of Clinton, but also does nothing to combine the party whatsoever, meaning that there is a lower probability that individuals will contribute.
I think it says something that before Biden was picked Rush Limbaugh was on air saying, please let it be Biden.
This will lose Obama the election.</p>
<p>Those are not things that make McCain dumb, it shows the disparity between classes in society. The fact that he finished last does not really matter, to make tough decisions, I would much rather have a man who when given the opportunity to leave a POW camp, decided to stay for 5 years. Why? Because he said it would be unfair to his men, that he went home bc his dad was prominent and they have to stay and be tortured. I do not care how intelligent a person is, anyone who would have the courage and faith to do that (and not for political gain) with my life, and most certainly my country. That speaks to an inner strength and character of McCain that overrides ANY type of intelligence by Obama.</p>
<p>You're a very conservative republican who believes in AA? Seems like you don't have the balls to get into college on your own terms...
The rest of your post is a mish-mosh of ideas, something about weakness, Clinton, and the big idiot named Rush Limbaugh. Frankly, Obama couldn't pick Clinton because of how she took him to task in the primaries. Biden was a safe pick. He helps boost Obama's foreign policy credentials and helps with the Catholic vote. On the other hand Biden is a bit of a gaffe machine so in the end the election will still be about Obama. Also, I was not saying that because McCain was dumber than Obama you shouldn't vote for him. It's just sort of odd that someone will call Obama dumb. And before you talk about classes in society, remember that McCain was born wealthy and considers 5mill/yr to be the cutoff for rich.</p>
<p>I dont have the balls to get into college on my own.
Really:</p>
<p>Work Experience</p>
<p>6/1/07-7/25/07 Target (Missouri City, TX) 30 hrs/week
6/7/08-8/22/08 16 hrs/week
Employee Food Ave.
Mitigate customer relations problems<br>
Provide high-quality food service </p>
<p>Activities</p>
<p>9th -10th Elkins High School Football Team 20 hrs/week
Linebacker, Kickoff, and Receiving Team 36 weeks/year
Directed the Defensive formation
(Quit because of wrist surgery) </p>
<p>9th-11th Elkins Band 10 hrs/week
Concert Band(9th), Symphonic Band(10th-11th) 30 weeks/year
Competed in UIL concert and sight reading contests </p>
<p>10th-12th Elkins Forensics Team 30 hrs/week
Member(10th-11th), Team Captain(12th) 25 weeks/year
Participated in Lincoln-Douglass Debate and Extemporaneous Speaking<br>
Instructed novice debaters </p>
<p>11th-12th Science Honor Society 6 hrs/week
Member(11th), Parliamentarian(12th) 15 weeks/year
Judged local science fairs
Participated in community service for science related endeavors 11th-12th </p>
<p>English Honor Society 6 hrs/week
Member(11th), Treasurer(12th) 6 weeks/year
Financial management for the society</p>
<p>11th-12th Mu Alpha Theta 6 hrs/week Member(11th-12th) 5 weeks/year
Competed in General Math and Science </p>
<p>Athletic Awards </p>
<p>9th District Runner-Up Football
2nd Place in district</p>
<p>10th District Champions Football
1st Place in district </p>
<p>Musical Awards</p>
<p>9th Dallas Lone Star Showcase of Music Outstanding in Division Award
UIL Concert Sight-Reading Award
10th San Francisco Musical Showcase Participant
UIL Outstanding Performance Award </p>
<p>Debate Awards</p>
<p>10th State Qualifier in Lincoln Douglass Debate<br>
5th Place Team Texas Forensic League State Tournament
1st place UT Longhorn Classic Tournament
1st Place Aldine Debate Tournament
National Forensic League Distinction Honor
11th State Qualifier in Lincoln Douglass Debate
State Quarterfinalist Extemporaneous Speaking
3rd Place UIL District Extemporaneous Speaking
6th Place NFL District Extemporaneous Speaking
National Forensic League Special Distinction Honor </p>
<p>Science Fair Awards</p>
<p>9th Fort Bend Outstanding Achievement in Science Award
10th Fort Bend Outstanding Achievement in Science Award
Elkins High School Top Chemistry Student Honor
11th Evaluation of Photon Tunneling Probability by Spatial Variation published by The Society for Amateur Scientists
4th Place American Physics Society-Texas Chapter
4th Place Science and Engineering Fair of Houston
Fort Bend Outstanding Achievement in Science Award
Elkins High School Top Chemistry Student Honor </p>
<p>Distinctive Research:</p>
<p>9th Quantitative Analysis of Electron Transition in Helium </p>
<p>lol you wouldn't be on this site if you wanted to get in just anywhere. You're aiming for schools like HYPS thus you know regardless of how "strong" you think your resume is (which really is mediocre just so you know for schools like HYPS) those schools are still reaches for everyone. I'm just saying, if you are a very conservative Republican you would not even consider creating a thread to support AA. It's true. It just happens that you're Black and you benefit from it. If you weren't you'd be sooo against AA and wouldn't be caught creating such a thread.</p>
<p>You must not have any idea, about conservatism nor of the diversity of conservative opinion. Thanking you again for attacking me and not the arguement btw what science reasearch did you do? I am not even applying HPS, I am applying to Yale. The only weakness in my app is SAT score which wont matter bc i am taking the ACT on the 13 of Sept. Conservative is being for a person achieving on thier own and so often is at odds with AA. You again fail to attack the arguement and result to attacking the person, I explictly state that the point was to justify AA, in order to alleviate the animosity directed towards minorities, bc often it is vicariously done by attacking AA. Critical thinking on the part of displaced aggression (which I specifically state on the very first post in the thread) would be that the thread is not so much a justification of AA, but rather a justification for minorities who are vicariously attacked by attacking a policy that they themselves had almost no impact on.</p>
<p>I am now not going to speak of AA agian (which was ridiculous, bc you brought up a completely irrelevant topic).
I posted that Obama's picking Biden, causes an alienation and a obvious weighing that I was implicating is that the negatives that Clinton would bring would not outwiegh the positives: 1) Donors, 2) Unity, 3) Galvinazation of the base. All of which would have been huge draws to the convention and would have lead to more individual donors contributing during the convention. But now Biden highlights the division, bc Clinton and Bill are present in abundance at the convention with a total of 3 days. Many ppl are not going to watch all the convention, but the analysis of reporters is what they will hear, ppl will hear about the possibilty of division and that will be what sticks, to be honest one can not accurately measure if this divisiveness will impact the election, but by the degenerative impact on donations (which will more than likely happen) it will only hurt.</p>
<p>lol I know that AA is not considered by any stretch of the imagination part of Conservatism. It's not like abortion or even gay marriage. If there's one thing "VERY CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICANS" disagree with it's AA. Find me five mainstream Republicans in Congress today that support AA and I'll reconsider my view. Indeed your beloved "maverick McCain" is stringently against AA. lol "I am not even applying HPS, I am applying to Yale". Oh yeah, we all know Yale is so much less selective than HPS and someone with a (ahem:mediocre resume-oh yeah I too did scientific research, it's not uncommon) can get in. I think you're a little confused. Let me try to help you. I'm not arguing whether AA is right or wrong, or whether Obama should have picked Joe Biden, or even who's going to make the better President. I am arguing the assertion that you are a "very conservative Republican". So yes, I am personally attacking you. So, if the thread was, as you said, to stop people from animosity towards URMs (which to be perfectly honest just doesn't exist at top schools, at least because of AA) I dare you to not mark your race on your application to Yale. But of course you will because you want the advantage from the color of your skin on your college application, all of course, while still being a very conservative Republican. Hypocrite.</p>
<p>I did not say animosity occured at top schools I said on these threads, what research did you study?
Also conservatism generally falls under two categories:economic and social. I am a very social conservative and therefore very Republican and consider my self to be Very conservative. I disagree on some economic aspects of conservatism i.e. I think government should intervene when it is in the best interest of the ppl and if you know about pure conservatism, that goes against lassie faire. Edmund Burke is more indicative of the economic conservatism which many academic conservatives uphold. But Jerry Falwell (a great American) is more indicative of the most galvanized base of the Republican party. I am of the latter affliation.
Conservatism has diversity.</p>
<p>Also again if you read the thread I say:</p>
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"That is pretty much the nail on the head. The system definitely should be changed. Mostly bc I think that it hurts Asians, I know so many who are not more intelligent that other ppl but just work hard. Like writing alot of notes and studying their butt off to get good grades, and I feel sorry for them bc if anything they have it worse than anyone else. But I still feel there should be an allotment for lower income blacks or hispanics or Asians or whites. But fortuantely in the coming few years if McCain wins (hopefully so) we'll have another conservative Justice on the Court and it will end."
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<p>I don't see how not knowing how many houses he has (when his wife runs a beer empire) indicates stupidity. Not like the way...just search for obama pay grade lol.</p>
<p>I don't see why you would be mad at McCain's belief that $5 million is rich. Unless you have some kind of resentment towards the rich... Which is completely irrational.</p>
<p>No</a>, Really—'Seriously?' McCain and Obama Define 'Rich' - Sam Dealey (usnews.com)</p>
<p>:)</p>