It's Joe Biden

<p>The other nations it would be argued are not as devote to Christianity. In fact if you ever look into the justification that Islamic terrorist give to attacking the west, it is that they have lost fidelty to Christianity (bc the Quran forbids force conversion of Christians and Jews) and therefore represent Satan. In those countries there is a high proportion of confessed Christians but not as high of those who are practicing, in traditionally Christian countries it becomes more of a cultural tradition, like Hillel, than a real religious commitment. But ultimately i am not going to defend it, as I did not make the statement but rather, I want to point out the basis behind the statement. I did not think it was bc of those groups.</p>

<p>In honest Spain did have the train thing as a terror attack, and Britian had their share, Canada on the other hand...well noone really cares about Canada :)!</p>

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I feel that these are circumstances that other applicants will not have to deal with, in that light I do not think that it would be wrong to say that I am black, heck I say I am black and am black on the things that disadvantage me, why not on the one time it helps?

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<p>Because you think it's wrong? Now, I'm not saying AA is wrong here, but if you truly felt it was wrong you wouldn't take advantage of it. If someone said that, if you're Black you could commit one crime for free and not go to jail for it, I'd hope you wouldn't take them up on it. Albeit an extreme, if you <em>truly</em> felt AA was wrong you wouldn't take advantage of it. I know that the challenges of being a smart black kid aren't made up. That's why I'm not saying AA is wrong. However, you're the one saying it's wrong. You are the one who says it's wrong, yet you'll still take advantage of it. If you truly feel what you wrote there about the hardships, then AA should be right, at least in your books. And if you believe in AA, you really can't consider yourself a very conservative Republican. Do you understand where I'm going with this?</p>

<p>^yeah, Kannadia isn't even a real country ;)</p>

<p>But I think the most disturbing thing about what Falwell said was that if he were correct in assuming the attack was an act of God, that would imply that God was acting through Osama Bin Laden-ie-that Bin Laden was in fact an agent of God.</p>

<p>In THE BIBLE though, often men who are not good are used by GOD to wield HIS punishment. Look at the King of Babylon who wreck Israel, or the Assyrians, or the Canaanites, or a number of the ppl around Israel who were pagan, but GOD used to punish the nation of Israel when they had lost sight of GOD.</p>

<p>The punishment ultimately brought the ppl back to GOD, and look what happened in America after that Church attendacne shot up, GW was elected and in his second term placed TWO justices on the supreme court, which basically made possible for 1 more to protect the millions of babies who die from abortion. The thing is that whenever THE LORD inflicted punishment on the ppl of Israel the benefit that came out of it was ALWAYS, more than the punishment, the same can be said in America.</p>

<p>^^True, but I highly doubt that rational passed through Falwell's mind when he made those remarks. His remarks were motivated more by his own personal vendeta against people who are different than by his understanding of Christian scripture.</p>

<p>I don't know he probably knew ALOT, of Christian scripture.</p>

<p>Hippo just to let you know I am about to get off. It is late, and I was supposed to study for the ACT, after hannity and colmes went off (yep i watch Fox news everyday :)), but then i got into this convo. Oh well. I just wanted to tell you so you don't post and wait for me to respond.</p>

<p>And here I was excited to see a four-page heated discussion about Joe Biden's nomination. Funny how all CC threads devolve into either AA or religion discussions--or in this case both!</p>

<p>THE LORD GOD supports Obama, hth.</p>

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And here I was excited to see a four-page heated discussion about Joe Biden's nomination. Funny how all CC threads devolve into either AA or religion discussions--or in this case both!

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Thank you! Someone who shares my sentiments.</p>

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his support for the surge

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<p>A surge that wouldn't have even been needed if we didn't listen to the warmongering morons like McCain in pushing for the war in the first place. McCain's boasting that he managed to salvage the family photo album from the house he burned down.</p>

<p>This is, of course, making the uninformed assumption that the surge is an undisputed success.</p>

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his stupidity (president biden, 57 states)

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<p>894th out of 899 legacy admit at Annapolis vs. editor of the Harvard Law Review.</p>

<p>I never liked Obama and now that he has choosen Biden I don't see any reason to vote for him at all. If he had choosen Senator Clinton, I might have voted for him. But alas he didn't, so I suppose that its Senator McCain for me.</p>

<p>Biden was a solid pick. It helps people like me(I'm on the fence currently) feel better since it brings an experienced politician to the ticket(Since that's my main gripe with Obama). And Hilary would NOT have been a good pick. I personally have nothing against her, but for every hilary voter Obama would have got, he would have lost just as many votes from people who hated hilary(Despite what people say she is very polarizing). Although there's no guarantee of this, it's just not worth the risk in the end. Plus I believe most Hilary supporters would have no choice to vote for Obama in the end anyways since idealogically they're very similar.</p>

<p>Oh and on another note on the whole Obama got in cuz of AA thing: he never actually checked in his race on the application. Therefore you can't really say "Obama only got in because he was black". So let's stop talking about that concerning Obama.</p>

<p>If Biden things the country will be better off with McCain, they whats the fuss about.</p>

<p>I guess Obama doesn't want the youth vote anymore. Biden may be 6 years younger than McCain, but he looks 6 years older. He has been in the Senate for 3 decades. He's the problem, not the solution.</p>

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I never liked Obama and now that he has choosen Biden I don't see any reason to vote for him at all. If he had choosen Senator Clinton, I might have voted for him. But alas he didn't, so I suppose that its Senator McCain for me.

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<p>How the hell can you go from being pro-Hillary, to considering voting for Obama if Hillary is the VP, to being a solid McCain supporter, without treating politics as something akin to "Choose Your Favourite Movie Star?" </p>

<p>If you were a Hillary supporter, you are either a Democrat, liberal, or a conservative willing to buck party trends to vote a white woman into the Oval Office. Which one are you?</p>

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I guess Obama doesn't want the youth vote anymore. Biden may be 6 years younger than McCain, but he looks 6 years older.

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<p>Biden actually has a personality and a fiery wit, unlike McCain. The youth appreciate that.</p>

<p>I think the Biden pick is stupid. Obama's missing national security experience? Ok, bring the old Washington guy in there, now there's a contrast. He should've picked a populist, ala Hillary :( Resonate with an issue Americans care about... To pick Biden is to acknowledge McCain's strengths and his own weakness.</p>

<p>I don't understand why anyone would want Obama. Where has he shown wisdom? Where's his record of accomplishment?</p>

<p>It's a disaster. This guy had the most hype, the most adulation, and he's just not resonating. Tied 45% in today's Gallup poll.</p>

<p>Chris, 1. Biden voted for the war, Obama was not sure if he would've voted for it since he didn't have the intelligence. This tyrant, we wanted to inspect his stuff. He's had a history of being stupid...and he's being stupid again and wouldn't surrender. He has no right to be stubborn considering his past. So the intelligence was wobbly. We know that NOW but not then.</p>

<p>"894th out of 899 legacy admit at Annapolis vs. editor of the Harvard Law Review."</p>

<p>Sorry, but academic achievements don't indicate wisdom. Clap clap, looks like you look up to Obama's title, I don't.</p>

<p>"If you were a Hillary supporter, you are either a Democrat, liberal, or a conservative willing to buck party trends to vote a white woman into the Oval Office. Which one are you?"</p>

<p>Assumptious. Just like Obama. Or Perlosi. So clearly deluded of other possibilities.</p>

<p>I liked Hillary because she was a working class hero, championing the people, and she cared about me :D jk. </p>

<p>Seriously, she highlighted the mortgage crisis earlier than McCain or any Dems, she's practical (supported the surge that has shown to be a success), married to the guy that brought us 8 years of peace and prosperity, a hard fighter that almost succeed in destroying the idiot of a nominee that we have now, stood for things and fought for things (healthcare), unlike Obama (FISA, etc Both</a> Ways Barack )</p>

<p>I don't vote for the party line, I vote for the best person. Hillary was not an ideological in the same way McCain is (or pretends to be) in his "taxes are bad" nor was she constantly hating on what a terrible institution America is (Obama). Best mix of government and business. Shame we have Obama now. I can't bring myself to vote for someone with no principles, no history of accomplishments (what did he do in Chicago, just bought some big houses with Rezko, Doug</a> Ross @ Journal )</p>

<p>"Biden actually has a personality and a fiery wit, unlike McCain. The youth appreciate that."</p>

<p>Quite the contrary to me. McCain is awkward but he's sweet and endearing.
YouTube</a> - Senator John McCain on Jimmy Kimmel Live 6-17-08
Biden is angry, smug. Will appeal to angry war protesters, I'm not sure who else.</p>

<p>I wouldn't characterize Biden as either angry or smug. He is, however, highly intelligent, experienced -- particularly in foreign affairs -- passionate about what he believes in, articulate and practical. And unlike the vast majority of politicians in Washington, this guy actually has a spine. Take a look at this clip of him on the Senate floor debating the funding resolution/withdrawal timetable for Iraq and ask yourselves when you EVER heard our esteemed President speak with this level of intelligence, insight and passion, particularly in an unscripted format: </p>

<p>YouTube</a> - Joe Biden Rips GOP On Iraq War Resolution </p>

<p>I can't wait for the vice presidential debates -- Biden is going to make mincemeat out of whoever the Republican vice presidential nominee turns out to be. Call him a gaffe machine if you will, but after 8 years of the Bush administration and the prospect of more of the same thing with McCain, my money, my support, and my vote go to Obama/Biden. Kudos to Obama for having the wisdom to see what Biden has to offer.</p>