It's the teacher's fault.

<p>What I most disagree with is the thread's misleading title. It's not the teacher's fault. If the teacher fails to motivate you, you better motivate yourself, or you're not going to succeed. This system is actually somewhat beautiful -- work hard and win. If a student simply follows the sways of stimulation different teachers provide, then it's his/her fault, and it's all the better for those who can stimulate themselves.</p>

<p>So, I agree fun, entertaining teachers can give students an affinity to their subject..but when they can't..that's what forms the gap between those who care to learn and those who don't.</p>

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I could tell you the name of a guy who really did fail a year and misbehaves..but you will only see that he misbehaves in those classes where the teacher did not put much effort..where only a handful of the class came out with a passing grade.

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<p>What about taking personal responsibility for oneself. I'm sorry that that guy failed one year, but whose fault is that?? Blaming a negligent teacher for one's laziness doesn't cut it. Sure, of course it would help to have a better teacher, but if that situation isn't available you have to do the best with what you have, and if that takes getting a tutor or some extra self-work, then that's what has to be done.</p>

<p>And I applaud you for really trying to work hard with a bad teacher, but if you can only do so much than that's that. It is definitely good to push oneself to do better, but everyone has his or her limits. If your limits are "struggling" (and by that, I would mean a B or such, considering we are at CC - lol) with a bad teacher, then basically take your B and leave it at that. If you hadn't worked as hard as you did, you wouldn't even get that. Now those are arbitrary "numbers", but still, the point remains. Blaming the teacher for a student's laziness is wrong. Also, if you have really tried hard and can't get past a certain level with a teacher, then just deal with it - at least you tried very hard. If you have a negligent boss when you are older, you'll either have to deal with it or get another job - simple as that.</p>

<p>Very well said, knavish.</p>

<p>Knavish : So, I agree fun, entertaining teachers can give students an affinity to their subject..but when they can't..that's what forms the gap between those who care to learn and those who don't.</p>

<p>Perfectly said. For example, my AP chem teacher was terrible, so most people sat in their chairs and complained, but a few people studied really hard and worked through the entire AP book and took the AP test this May. I think the ability to do that is one of the most important lessons I've learned in my entire schooling. So actually, her being a lazy biotch helped me out a lot (but it still makes me mad to think of her little face....).</p>