<p>Hi guys,
Please help me figure which one is better between these schools, esp for finance major?
Thanks in advance</p>
<p>both are good but i think UIUC is better</p>
<p>i would go to uiuc.
better campus life, academics, and prestige.</p>
<p>Are you actually going to make a life-altering decision based on what some guy says on a webforum?</p>
<p><a href="http://ucso.indiana.edu/cgi-bin/index.cfm%5B/url%5D">http://ucso.indiana.edu/cgi-bin/index.cfm</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.business.uiuc.edu/bcs/%5B/url%5D">http://www.business.uiuc.edu/bcs/</a></p>
<p>You tell me which is better.</p>
<p>hahaha qwertip. what are you so angry about?
do you go to indiana or something?</p>
<p>anyways, he shouldn't base his decision on the sweet little ranking links that you provided either. we're just here to give our opinions.</p>
<p>You really think your opinion, or any CCers opinion for that matter, is more valuable than a calculated ranking based on the work of hundreds of professionals?</p>
<p>Arrogance and ignorance are a bad combination.</p>
<p>lol wow i guess we are still here on CC talkin about business heh, well im at IU right now having a great time ( we are the #6 party school so we DO have social/campus life) and there are alot of things to do. for business, IU and UIUC are probaly very similar so its probaly up to the individual to decide which school is best for him/her but if cost is a concern, then just come to IU, its cheaper or more feasible for out of state. while both schools have little diversity, IU has more diversity and out of staters than Illinois if that helps.</p>
<p>Dcho, you are very misinformed if u think that IU has more diversity that UIUC, but it does have more out-of-staters.</p>
<p>it comes down to this:</p>
<p>IU's Kelley school is more respected as a business school.
UIUC is significantly more respected overall as the school in general.</p>
<p>these two advantages cancel eachother out, so the value of a business degree from either school is going to be about the same when you're looking for a job. so just go to the school you like better.</p>
<p>any idea about IUB vs UT McCombs BHP? According to this link <a href="http://www.mccombs.utexas.edu/udean/admissions/external.asp%5B/url%5D">http://www.mccombs.utexas.edu/udean/admissions/external.asp</a>,
it is very hard and competitive to get into there, esp. as a transfer student. But is it true?</p>
<p>how much does it cost for a year for an out of stater? and how about night life? campus life ?</p>
<p>o ic, i guess UIUC has more minorities on campus then, i just assumed UIUC would have less diversity cuz a math teacher from my high school went to UIUC for grad. and he said it had very little diversity and also because this school seemed to emphasize or support diversity (they have a center for every race) during the first week of college. my bad</p>
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it comes down to this:</p>
<p>IU's Kelley school is more respected as a business school.
UIUC is significantly more respected overall as the school in general.</p>
<p>these two advantages cancel eachother out, so the value of a business degree from either school is going to be about the same when you're looking for a job. so just go to the school you like better.
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<p>No, they don't cancel each other out. At a compartmentalized University it makes all the difference what compartment you are in. The respect accorded the entire University makes little difference.</p>
<p>For example have you heard of The New School?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.newschool.edu/%5B/url%5D">http://www.newschool.edu/</a></p>
<p>Now guess what world-famous fashion school is attached to New School: Parsons.</p>
<p>Ever seen "Project Runway"? Tim Gunn the gray-haired man who runs that show is the head of Parsons.</p>
<p>Now do you honestly think the employment opportunities are going to be comparable in New School's liberal arts college versus Parsons?</p>
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any idea about IUB vs UT McCombs BHP? According to this link <a href="http://www.mccombs.utexas.edu/udean/...s/external.asp%5B/url%5D">http://www.mccombs.utexas.edu/udean/...s/external.asp</a>,
it is very hard and competitive to get into there, esp. as a transfer student. But is it true?
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<p>McCombs BHP is tops. Take a look at the top recruiters of the program and you'll see for yourself.</p>
<p>If you plan on taking advantage of our accounting program, come to UIUC. If not, save your money and go to Kelley. Also, admission to UIUC business is increasingly difficult.</p>
<p>I would go with UIUC, hands down.</p>
<p>It's more respected as an overall university (UIUC= #41 overall university, IU is #70), and still has a VERY well respected business program (IU= #11, UIUC=#13). Also, UIUC business students are probably more hardworking and brighter than Kelley students...so it depends who you want to be around. This is NOT a stab at IU students, but Don't you "only" need a 1250 and 3.5 to get direct admission to kelley? That right there would probably get you rejected by UIUC liberal arts as an out of state, or POSSIBLY even in-state applicant. UIUC (near chicago, right?) also seems to have a much better location than IU. Also, rumour is that Kelley facilities are somewhat run down. Can anyone confirm this? I read this in (i think) the business week rankigns, and my friend who visited IU-Kelley last year wasn't impressed by Kelley's facilities.</p>
<p>Also, this is probably the MAIN reason why you should go with UIUC over IU...</p>
<p>You chose finance as your major. As someone who probably wants to deal with money, numbers, and get a good job...MAYBE just MAYBE you'll decide to switch from Finance to accounting. Guess what, UIUC has the #2 accounting program in the United States. And, if you decide to switch out of business and into liberal arts or engineering...UIUC is ALOTTTTT more respected than IU.</p>
<p>UIUC is not right near Chicago. Both IU and UIUC are located in small cities dominated by college students. In terms of business, IU is slightly more respected in the Midwest. I am an Indiana resident and have visited both campuses and business schools. I have visited UIUC once and IU numerous times. Just to let you know, both schools have well-maintained facilities and they are not run-down. As a whole, UIUC has a stronger student body, but that has nothing to do with the academic quality of the programs they offer. IU has a stronger finance program, but UIUC has a stronger accounting program. It is common for finance majors to also major in accounting, but many decide not to double major. In my opinion, the strength of an accounting program is overrated because many accounting firms recruit in large numbers at almost every decent business program in the country. I would suggest visiting both schools to decide for yourself which school/program you like the best. It really is important to consider the common factors in making a college decision (cost, location, etc) because college is expensive. If you are curious to know which school I chose, the answer is neither. I chose Notre Dame because my parents were willing to pay for me to go there. Good luck in your decision.</p>
<p>While UIUC is much better in engineering (IU has none but UIUC is still outstanding), I think IU is very close in liberal arts areas. Also any good accounting program is good enough as the same firms recruit at both and pay the same.</p>
<p>Business Week gave Kelley's facilities and services an A rating, they are some of the nicest buildings in campus. I don't know where you got the impression that they are crappy.</p>
<p>As for the general university, they are equal like the business school. IU has a peer assessment of a 3.8, Illinois as a 4.0. However, the business school has a peer assessment of a 4.0, while Illinois is a 3.9. Saying one is drastically better than another is pretty ridiculous, or at least that's how the deans and senior faculty members believe.</p>
<p>The majors comment was pretty ridiculous. Indiana ranks in the top 10 in 11 different majors. Illinois only ranks in the top 10 in 3 majors. Here's a comparison for the US News rankings. </p>
<p>Major Indiana Illinois
Accounting rank: 7 2
Business program rank: 11 13
Entrepreneurship rank: 3 not ranked
Finance rank: 7 11
Insurance/Risk Management rank: 8 4
International Business rank: 13 not ranked
Management Information Systems rank: 7 17
Management rank: 5 11
Marketing rank: 7 12
Production/Operations Management rank: 6 18
Quantitative Analysis/Methods rank: 8 11
Real Estate rank: 7 7
Supply Chain Management/Logistics rank: 10 not ranked</p>
<p>As for the students, I hear this concern a lot. Indiana weeds out the students. They have some of the nation's best teaching (Business Week rated them the #1 core teaching quality in the country), and they get rid of the students who aren't qualified. The people who enter the school and the people who graduate from there are completely different. In fact, recruiters on Business Week's rankings ranked Indiana's students 7th in the country, and Illinois 37th. Sit in on a class, see the lectures before you make a judgement about the students. It will seem pretty ridiculous that you're comparing test scores once you are on campus.</p>
<p>I'm not here to sway you one way or another, but I just wanted to correct some misinformation earlier on the thread. Both are fine schools who get similar job offers. You're not putting yourself in a different situation by getting a degree from one school over another.</p>
<p>yea im here at IU as well and not all the IU students here are stupid or underqualified. i think the bottom 20% of this school makes us look bad LOL. for example, a guy in my group for one of my business classes got into upenn wharton but decided to come to IU kelley instead (he did get alot of scholarships) because 1) he didnt want to fork out 40000 and 2) IU kelley was still pretty good in his opinion. while UPENN blows IU out of the water in business obviously, he did say IU kelley is getting more recognition as a top bschool in nyc where his father's friend works.</p>
<p>o i posted this before but for 2004-2005, the avg. sat I score for Direct admits was 1316 (M+V) so thats not that bad :). im not saying Kelley is in the league of other schools like Ross/Stern/Haas because that is giving Kelley TOO much recognition but i do believe it has deserved to share a spot with schools like Marshell/Tepper/Kenan-Flagler.</p>