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<p>Says in that wiki link you posted that,</p>
<p>“The first formal league involving Ivy League teams was formed in 1902, when Columbia, Cornell, Harvard, Yale and Princeton formed the Eastern Intercollegiate Basketball League. They were later joined by Penn, Dartmouth and Brown.”</p>
<p>By 1902, the modern game of baseball, the game that we know today, was played. </p>
<p>All of the major changes in the game had taken place by 1883 – the last major change was treating foul balls as strikes.</p>
<p>The first intercollegiate was in 1859 between Williams and Amherst. The rule then were probably quite strange.</p>
<p>Many people are confusing the graduate programs of these Universities with their undergraduate programs.</p>
<p>Considering undergraduate programs, the list would probably be closer to:</p>
<ol>
<li>Princeton</li>
<li>Dartmouth/Yale</li>
<li>Brown</li>
<li>Penn</li>
<li>Colombia/Harvard</li>
<li>Cornell</li>
</ol>
<p>Many people are tempted to place Colombia and Harvard higher on the list due to their reputations. However, when considering undergraduate programs, Harvard generally has large classes or classes taught by TAs. Dartmouth and Princeton have commendable Undergraduate focuses, which is why Dartmouth ranked #1 on undergraduate faculty teaching in the USNWR in 2010. Cornell also plans to spend another $400 million dollars to improve their undergraduate programs, which may or may not make them move up in the list. Penn’s size and professor accessibility, or inaccessibility, makes it place lower than schools like Brown, Yale, Princeton, and Dartmouth.</p>
<p>^Colombia is a country in South America from where we get coffee and cocaine. Juan Valdez hails from there. </p>
<p>Columbia is a university in the city of New York where one can get a great cup of coffee and probably too some pretty decent cocaine.</p>
<ol>
<li>Harvard</li>
<li>Yale</li>
<li>Princeton</li>
<li>Columbia</li>
<li>UPenn</li>
<li>Dartmouth</li>
<li>Brown</li>
<li>Cornell</li>
</ol>
<p>[Which</a> MBA?: The top thirty | The Economist](<a href=“The top thirty”>The top thirty)</p>
<p>Dartmouth’s alumni loyalty is unparalleled. Although its location shrinks it application pool, it is often overlooked. It has a phenomenal MBA program and its undergraduate teaching ranking is tied for #1 with Princeton:</p>
<p>[Best</a> Undergraduate Teaching | Rankings | Top National Universities | US News](<a href=“http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities/undergraduate-teaching]Best”>http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities/undergraduate-teaching)</p>
<p>The list may seem skewed due to a lack of schools like Harvard, Penn, and Columbia, but the prestige of these schools often overshadows their programs.</p>
<p>That said, all of the schools people name on this forum are fantastic and at a certain point one must split hairs to rank them.</p>
<p>Best undergraduate education:</p>
<p>Princeton
Yale
Brown/Dartmouth</p>
<p>Why are you reviving ancient threads?</p>
<p>Or more succinctly: why are you reviving ancient and *inane *threads?</p>
<p>Didn’t look at the dates. Just chimed in</p>
<p>For undergrad:
1)Brown- Not even close.
2)Dartmouth- Brown’s true competitor
3)Princeton- Too much social striving.
4)Columbia- No school spirit.
5)Yale-See Princton
6)Penn- Too pre-professional. Not very cerebral.
7)Harvard- Married to a Harvard grad. Wouldn’t let her daughter apply.
8)Cornell- Shouldn’t be an Ivy undergrad.</p>
<p>For grad school:
1)Harvard- Not even close.
2)Columbia
3)Penn
4)Yale
5)Princeton
6)Cornell
7)Brown
8)Dartmouth- By far the worse grad school in the Ivy league.</p>
<p>My two cents:</p>
<ol>
<li>Yale (really top notch academics, great sense of community with the residential college system)</li>
<li>Princeton (excellent academics, beautiful campus, interesting grading policy)</li>
<li>Harvard (seems to lack the student happiness that Yale and Princeton have)</li>
<li>Dartmouth (very strong alumni network)</li>
<li>Columbia (strong core curriculum here)</li>
<li>UPENN (nice urban campus, but there are probably better options if you aren’t interested in Wharton)</li>
<li>(TIE) Cornell (actually has some pretty good programs, disagree with Galanter’s statement) and Brown (too unconventional to be ranked higher.</li>
</ol>
<p>That’s just my opinion though, and obviously the folks over at US NEWS disagree with me in some spots.</p>
<p>Objective from what I know:
<p>Each school has its pros and cons, with its own individual strengths and niches that make unique and different. This is largely my opinion:</p>
<ol>
<li>**Princeton<a href=“undergraduate%20focus,%20ultimate%20college%20experience,%20liberal%20arts%20feel%20with%20top%20tier%20engineering,%20amazing%20humanities,%20strong%20sciences%20and%20social%20sciences,%20diverse%20student%20presence,%20safe,%20beautiful%20campus,%20great%20professors,%20amazing%20alumni%20loyalty%20and%20connections,%20centralized%20campus%20spirit,%20best%20financial%20aid,%20prestige.%20I’d%20say%20its%20weakness%20is%20lack%20of%20professional%20school%20resources%20%5Bbut%20this%20is%20easily%20made%20up%20for%20by%20other%20things%5D,%20which%20is%20what%20one%20pays%20the%20price%20for%20wanting%20more%20resources%20and%20attention%20for%20undergrads.%20There’s%20also%20grade%20deflation,%20but%20really%20what%20top%20tier%20school%20isn’t%20competitive?%20Grade%20deflation%20has%20a%20marginal%20effect%20on%20one’s%20success%20in%20college%20and%20post-graduation.%20Also%20it’s%20a%20little%20secluded%20if%20you’re%20more%20into%20urban%20areas.”>/b</a></li>
<li>**Yale<a href=“strong%20undergraduate%20focus%20with%20a%20nice%20rescol%20system,%20although%20rescols%20are%20pretty%20universal%20nowadays…%20%5Ba%20rose%20by%20any%20other%20name%20is%20still%20a%20rose%5D…%20strong%20political%20presence,%20same%20strengths%20as%20Princeton%20in%20terms%20of%20faculty%20and%20resources,%20campus%20spirit,%20alumni%20network,%20and%20student%20engagement.%20I’d%20say%20the%20main%20flaws%20are%20its%20location,%20obsession%20with%20beating%20out%20Harvard,%20weak%20STEM%20majors,%20and%20relatively%20homogenous%20student%20body.”>/b</a></li>
<li>Harvard has all the typical strengths of a great research university mentioned above, but there’s just a weak sense of student pride/happiness/atmosphere and just a weird cachet in my opinion to hold a Harvard degree. You’re immediately judged and I feel like that stereotype does draws a bit from the experience you have there as a student. Also, grad schools are way better at Harvard than their undergrad. Their engineering is also relatively weak.</li>
<li>Columbia</li>
<li>Penn</li>
<li>Dartmouth</li>
<li>**Brown<a href=“is%20this%20even%20a%20real%20school?”>/b</a></li>
<li>Cornell</li>
</ol>
<p>MOST IMPORTANTLY…</p>
<p>WHAT COLLEGE HAS BEEN RATED #1 BY USNEWS THE MOST IN THE LAST FIFTEEN YEARS?</p>
<p>–> PRINCETON <–</p>
<p>Harvard/Princeton
Yale
Columbia
Penn/Dartmouth
Brown</p>
<p>Cornell</p>
<p>I heard from street – haha, don’t blame me
<p>Undergrad
<p>Grad
<ol>
<li><p>Brown (because their curriculum is light years ahead of the rest)</p>
<ol>
<li>??? sorry can’t name the other Ivies…anyone?</li>
</ol></li>
</ol>
<p>Again, my declaration that this thread is inane. As if any of the above posters has actually *attended * eight undergraduate institutions. Let’s argue what is the all time best movie. At least we could pick from a body of nominees and all see it. </p>
<p>To “rank” these schools, pretending authority and knowledge versus aping stereotypes, should be nothing more than a playful diversion.</p>
<p>Promulgating stereotypes is idiocy. C’mon: “Shouldn’t be an Ivy undergrad” Seriously? Who the eff are you?</p>
<p>^ Yes. Inane, pointless, and silly. Even for the extremely few applicants for whom this question is relevant, it comes down to individual personal circumstances and preferences.</p>
<p>Lighten up…just a little school pride and bragging…they’re all great schools.</p>