<p>Thanks fireball. Thanks. Seriously, no one on these forums knew that. At all. </p>
<p>Could you type that again just so I can get that one more time?</p>
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Thanks fireball. Thanks. Seriously, no one on these forums knew that. At all. </p>
<p>Could you type that again just so I can get that one more time?
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<p>har har... you pretend like everybody knows it, but "Ivy League" has become an over-hyped brand. There are many applicants that apply for the sole purpose of prestige, without thinking about the fit.</p>
<p>Subjective</p>
<ol>
<li>Penn - Wharton</li>
<li>Harvard</li>
<li>Yale</li>
<li>Princeton</li>
<li>Columbia</li>
<li>Cornell</li>
<li>Brown</li>
<li>Darthmouth</li>
</ol>
<p>This kind of threads always degenerate into ***** fights. That's okay, though -- ***** fights are fun to watch! Happy New Year everyone, and best of luck to you all!</p>
<p>Is this an undergrad ranking or grad ranking? If it's undergrad, it's:
Yale
Princeton
Dartmouth
Brown
Penn
Harvard
Columbia
Cornell</p>
<p>That's what I think. Harvard is pretty much a research powerhouse, Columbia is great with its Grad Schools, and nothing is special about Cornell except for its engineering program. Kids at my school apply to Cornell simply because it's an Ivy and the easiest to get into.</p>
<p>Seriously, Dartmouth should be judged more fairly, considering it's a real COLLEGE. The undergrads at most other Ivies are just there to fill the streets.</p>
<p>I agree completely with bnguyen, though I think Yale and Princeton should be tied at first. Although I'll probably be a prospective applied math major at Yale in the fall, engineering and math is definitely still stronger at Princeton.
The rest of the list looks good. I'm a firm believer against majoring in business as an undergrad, particularly in this economic climate but in any time as well. Wharton is outstanding in what it does, but other schools offer a more comprehensive education.</p>
<p>Lol, it's hard to find someone who agrees completely with someone else on this kind of topic, pianista.</p>
<p>Are you applying to both Yale and Princeton? What other Ivies do you also apply?</p>
<p>Well I mean.. I don't COMPLETELY agree, but there are many significant factors of that list that I do agree with- that Dartmouth is underrated for undergraduate education, that Harvard is overrated, and that although having outstanding graduate schools does not preclude amazing undergraduate education, they do not go hand in hand. I see those factors weighted in your list and that makes me happy. That being said, the difference between the top and the bottom of the list... really aren't as big as people make it out to be.</p>
<p>I got into Yale SCEA, and am currently writing my why engineering statement for Princeton. So maybe a little biased. But, so is everyone else. :P</p>
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<blockquote> <p>"Oh sweet, an ivy in the city? I can go shopping everyday!!!" <<</p> </blockquote>
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<p>I had a friend who applied ED to Columbia for that very reason and was accepted. I. Was. Horrified.</p>
<p>Wow, congrats on getting accepted to Yale SCEA. I appled Yale RD for Ethics, Politics, and Economics, but I am really worried after seeing the stats of those CCers on the forum.</p>
<p>Yeah, I also applied to Dartmouth and Brown. I did not apply Princeton because I am not really into the school.</p>
<p>brown is an awesome place but it is not for everyone. they do better than all of the other ivies at winning fulbright fellowships (a prestigious award that funds a year of research in a foreign country), are renown for entrepreneurship, and basically run hollywood. at the same time, they have nobel laureates on the faculty and produce nobel laureates among the students. basically, it rewards people who are steadfastly self-driven and value autonomy...other people might flounder there.</p>
<p>anyway, my list is </p>
<ol>
<li>princeton</li>
<li>harvard, yale</li>
<li>brown, columbia</li>
<li>dartmouth</li>
<li>cornell, penn</li>
</ol>
<p>princeton
harvard
yale
columbia
dartmouth
penn
brown
cornell</p>
<p>objectively</p>
<p>Crispy... I don't know how you can say that OBJECTIVELY... I mean... you're posting in the princeton forum... you're most likely applying to princeton... you offer no reasons... how is that objective?</p>
<ol>
<li>Harvard University</li>
<li>Yale University</li>
<li>Columbia University</li>
<li>University of Pennsylvania</li>
<li>Princeton University</li>
<li>Cornell University</li>
<li>Brown University</li>
<li>Dartmouth College</li>
</ol>
<p>Also:
Now, I'm not some Ivy League obsessed neo-maxi-zoom-dweeby, but I think you've overlooked something in this post; it's only four years of your life! If you don't fit in (which I'm sure you'll meet enough people to fit in with at least some of them) then it's not a huge deal. Lot's of people go through high school (myself included) without fitting in and come out alive. The Ivy Leagues will benefit you through the rest of your life, despite the four years of not "fitting in".</p>
<p>Wow. I made this post around Christmas, went on vacation for a week, and look how many replies I got!</p>
<ol>
<li>Harvard</li>
<li>Yale</li>
<li><p>Princeton</p></li>
<li><p>ColumbiaPennDartmouthBrownCornell</p></li>
</ol>
<p>LOL. </p>
<p>I just want to see how many people go on "you just care about prestige!" rants.</p>
<p>:)</p>
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Now, I'm not some Ivy League obsessed neo-maxi-zoom-dweeby, but I think you've overlooked something in this post; it's only four years of your life! If you don't fit in (which I'm sure you'll meet enough people to fit in with at least some of them) then it's not a huge deal. Lot's of people go through high school (myself included) without fitting in and come out alive. The Ivy Leagues will benefit you through the rest of your life, despite the four years of not "fitting in".
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<p>Really? I'd love to hear you tell that to an admissions officer. Attending an Ivy League does not just leave you set for life. Any education is useless if it isn't an environment you can grow and thrive in.</p>
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Yeah, well you can say that about any school. But it is very obvious that attending an ivy=greater chance of success, overall. Stop playing devil's advocate. As arrogant as the ivy league is, you have a better chance of employment and greater salary most likely then a state school, etc.</p>
<p> [quote=icfireball] Any education is useless if it isn't an environment you can grow and thrive in.
Many people manage to do well enough to get into these schools despite hating their high school and the environment.</p>
<p>I completely agree with the original Blair Waldorf notion that the only true Ivies are the Trinity...Princeton, Harvard, Yale. =)</p>