<p>Fastfood15, I realize that this really is not that important (Columbia and Harvard are 2 of the most selective schools in the country regardless of statistics), but there is a little inconsistency in the data you used.</p>
<p>The data you reported for Columbia is correct. 7.5% was the regular decision acceptance rate for the class of 2013.</p>
<p>However, the data you are using for Harvard is for the class of 2012. For the class of 2013, the applicants rose to 29000 and the acceptance rate reported by the Crimson and other news agencies was 7.0%. This does not take into account the wait-list but neither does the data you are using for Columbia. When the common data set is released for the past admissions season, both the Columbia and Harvard acceptance rates will be adjusted to take into account wait-list acceptances; however, Harvard still had a lower overall acceptance rate than Columbia’s regular decision acceptance rate for the class of 2013. </p>
<p>I realize that we are talking abut fractions of a percent and changes over 1 year, and I recognize that acceptance rate is only one very small indicator of selectivity and of the strength of these institutions; however, my OCD couldn’t let it slip.</p>
<p>Also removing the engineering stats as Columbia does seems fishy. All the Ivies have engineers - about 10% of their respective student bodies at a minimum- and all have a higher acceptance rate. Taking out the “college” data isn’t fair as the “college” students will have a lower acceptance rate at any Ivy. Also, Columbia also accepts an inordinate amount of students ED (43% of their class). Playing with data doesn’t make it correct.</p>
<p>I apologize, I just used the stats from Harvard’s website. I didn’t make sure it was the most current data. </p>
<p>My point was to expose what I think is a surprising number. I think this is important because it shows selectivity well beyond Penn, and, as a RD applicant myself, I feel a sense of injustice. my ego needs to be stroked!</p>
<p>fun as these lists are- is there a criteria for ranking these in total?</p>
<p>not just ivies:</p>
<p>where the IMO kids go- 1. MIT, 2. Harvard, 3. Caltech
smartest students overall: 1. Caltech, 2. MIT 3. Harvey Mudd
most Nobels: 1. Columbia, 2. Chicago, 3. Harvard
best science faculty today: 1. Harvard 2. MIT 3. UC Berkeley
best for Wall Street: 1. Penn, 2. Harvard, 3. Dartmouth
best for Silicon Valley: 1. Stanford 2. MIT 3. Carnegie Mellon
best for Hollywood: 1. UCLA 2. USC 3. NYU
best for politics/law: 1. Yale 2. Harvard 3. Princeton
best for premed: probably middle tier LACs</p>
<p>cornell deserves to be an ivy. it has enough prestige to be one and will most likely be better regarded than brown in the next decade or two because of the endowment that they can use to expand all over the place and research. browns endowment is low and they will not be able to keep up. Also, cornell is expanding glabally and fast. theyve even been described as “the global university of the future” this international involvement will lead to their name being mroe recognized, mor applied to, and more prestigious. it deserves the Ivy name now and even more in the future.</p>
<p>The only place I saw with the term “Ivy League” were at the walls and floor of the Payne Whitney Gymnasium. It’s an athletic conference, nothing more. Any value we give to the prestige of the “league” comes only from our minds.</p>
<ol>
<li>MIT</li>
<li>Harvard</li>
<li>Stanford
JHU
Yale
Princeton
Caltech</li>
<li>Dartmouth
Chicago
Duke
Penn
WUSTL</li>
<li>UC Berkeley
Columbia</li>
<li>Northwestern
Cornell</li>
</ol>
<p>I’m hope I’ll get around to apply to all of them except Caltech, Columbia, and Berkeley (I just don’t like them or I’m not qualified). Might also drop Stanford, Northwestern, and Cornell because of too much work. Shooting for MIT and Princeton, but will settle for JHU.
Brown is so fail that it ain’t even on my list.</p>
<p>1Harvard
2Princeton
3Yale
4Columbia
5Wharton School
6Brown
7Dartmouth
8Cornell
9UpennCAS and others
When you rank penn,you should divide it by two parts,because they are completely different.</p>