Ivy League Undergraduate Troubles!

<p>Sander’s argument depends on the mathematical calculation that students with the same grades at the same law schools will all have similar bar passage rates regardless of race. Ian Ayres has published a paper arguing that this assumption is false.</p>

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<p>Lol, you mean you go to Yale and are in Directed Studies? ;)</p>

<p>Just curious, but how would a candidate with similar numbers but not URM do in the same situation? Assuming a GPA of 3.6-3.8 at any Ivy with LSAT’s 170+, is HYS LS possible or more unlikely?</p>

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<p>HYS are possible with a 3.8+ and at the upper-end of the 170s. Maybe a high-3.7 will be enough with an even higher LSAT for Harvard. Other than that, enjoy Columbia, NYU, or UChicago.</p>

<p>I’m looking at the Action Report for Stanford for the 2006-2007 cycle.</p>

<p>Yale 173.7/3.87
Harvard 172.5/3.83
Stanford 170.8/3.85</p>

<p>Three cycles have passed since then. The 3.8+ GPA floor still stands, but you might add 1.0-2.0 to each LSAT mean.</p>

<p>With a 3.3 GPA, you are in decent to great shape for many lower T-14 schools. </p>

<p>Heck, I knew several people from my undergrad who managed to get into places like Virginia and Georgetown with cum GPAs well south of that. Heck, there’s one non-URM social science major classmate who managed admission to Georgetown with barely a 3.0 cum GPA who failed at least one course and got Cs in a some others. </p>

<p>You’ve got 2 at least two more years to bring that GPA up, boost your ecs/softs, and to practice your LSATs. </p>

<p>Also, if you’re thinking about law school…I recommend an internship and/or working as a paralegal in a law firm so you get a glimpse of what lawyers actually do.</p>