<p>DS is really enthralled with Stanford, but mom and dad would like him to apply closer to home.</p>
<p>So we're wondering, which Ivy is most like Stanford in terms of student body/ We hear Stanford students most often described as ducks, seemingly calm on top of the water but paddling like crazy beneath the water to keep up. He's really interested in a more collaborative student environment than some of the Ivies might appear to be. </p>
<p>Any suggestions?</p>
<p>More collaboratve...try Brown. Duck-like, try Cornell.</p>
<p>Dartmouth definitely fits your description perfectly.</p>
<p>dartmouth is also a lot colder than stanford. i always thought duke wasnt too far off, but for premed will be more intense (i know duke is not ivy).</p>
<p>i'd say cornell</p>
<p>i've heard it said numerous times on this forum that much of stanford is modeled on Cornell - from things like the campus, to curriculums, even down to some specific courses. </p>
<p>I can't verify this, obviously, as I have never been to Stanford, but it's an interesting notion none the less.</p>
<p>Cornell isn't actually duck-like in the same way as Stanford...the competition there is pretty tough. I hear things about students ripping pages out of reference books so other students won't have access to them.</p>
<p>Stanford was designed in the beggining with the halp of many Cornell graduates but that was ages ago things change. My honest advice is that if the guy really likes Stanford he should apply to Stanford.</p>
<p>I would just like to add that it would be pretty hard to find another university whose students are so collaborative...I heard once that MIT was but I don't know.</p>
<p>MIT most certainly is an extremely collaborative place, although it is not an Ivy.</p>
<p>^hahaha of course but I think dad4son meant ivy-like not sure of course...</p>
<p>hands on collaborative?
carnegie mellon. not an ivy, but its up there.</p>
<p>I've been to all the Ivies. Hands down Brown and Dartmouth. Cornell isn't even close. similar academically perhaps (science focus) but not at all in student body.</p>
<p>Brown for sure. I know a lot of students at both Brown and Stanford and they are very similiar and they all seem to agree that the two schools are very similiar.</p>
<p>Harvard, Princeton, Colubmia, UPenn, and Cornell.</p>
<p>Outside of Ivy: MIT, Carnegie, Lehigh, and Johns Hopkins. </p>
<p>You want schools in the Northeast, right?</p>
<p>WOW, how can poeple be so wrong. MIT, Carnegie, JHU, Cornell, and Columbia are some of the most intense show-boat places out there.</p>
<p>The chill smart schools are Dartmouth, Stanford, and Brown.</p>
<p>MIT? Showboat?</p>
<p>MIT is intense, for sure, but it's also an extremely collaborative environment -- you can't afford to act in cutthroat ways, because then nobody will help you on the next problem set. We're all in this boat together, etc.</p>
<p>Another thing I've noticed over the course of four years at MIT is that MIT students are almost pathologically helpful -- if you have a problem, MIT kids can't stop themselves from helping you.</p>
<p>Okay, maybe all of the schools I listed are either intense or "flaunting"</p>
<p>Brown, Stanford, Dartmouth win hands down at being collaborative campuses where people work hard but still have a great time.</p>
<p>Stanford and Cornell both have student bodies that are among the best in the US, both are medium-large sized schools, both have extremely strong academics especially in the sciences and engineering fields and both have large grad programs for PhD's and professional schools for students to take advantage of such as law, business, and medicine. Dartmouth lacks most of these. </p>
<p>Stanford is closer to Cornell in everything except this "chilled out" student body people talk about. Cornell is more "work hard play harder" type of attitude ... big efforts bring even better rewards come weekend time. Besides, Cornell students are usually too involved in activities outside of academics to be "chilled out" all of the time. </p>
<p>Also, it's not a good idea to go through an education at Cornell without collaborating with people. Students realize this and the result is a highly cooperative environment of students who typically work together. I've never had a page missing from a library book when I've needed to do research, and neither has anybody i've ever met on campus. This is just a false stereotype of Cornell students, but rest assured it is far from the truth. Though, based on all of my friends at the other ivy's, Cornell is certainly up there on the "students work hard" ladder. </p>
<p>So, if you're looking for this "chilled out" atmosphere as the only criterion for selecting other colleges, then maybe look at Dartmouth and Brown. If you're looking for a school where the academic offerings for both undergraduate and graduate (grad. is usually important for research opportunities) are similar, then look at Cornell.</p>
<p>I spent part of this summer on an internship at Stanford in the great books program and I am currently a sophomore at Dartmouth.</p>
<p>Slipper is correct here: Dartmouth...and then perhaps Brown.</p>
<p>As to the others, it isn't even close.
Dartmouth has the chill and the smart.</p>