Ivy Stats - Where can I get money?

College Search & Selection
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<p>So this question has probably been asked a lot and I've been doing some research on this, but I want to know people's experiences with what colleges have offered them.<br>
I have Ivy League stats in terms of SATs, GPA, and extra curriculars. Which schools will offer students with these stats money? It doesn't have to be a full ride, but a good chunk of money from a good school is gold in my eyes. For example, I have heard people get offered a lot of money from schools like WUSTL or U Mich. Which schools like to throw money at or at least contribute some degree of money to students with high stats?</p>

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<p>This is a good place to start - good luck!
<a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/financial-aid-scholarships/848226-important-links-automatic-guaranteed-merit-scholarships.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/financial-aid-scholarships/848226-important-links-automatic-guaranteed-merit-scholarships.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/financial-aid-scholarships/1348012-automatic-full-tuition-full-ride-scholarships-19.html#post16145676[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/financial-aid-scholarships/1348012-automatic-full-tuition-full-ride-scholarships-19.html#post16145676&lt;/a&gt;
<a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/financial-aid-scholarships/1461983-competitive-full-tuition-full-ride-scholarships-4.html#post16224918[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/financial-aid-scholarships/1461983-competitive-full-tuition-full-ride-scholarships-4.html#post16224918&lt;/a&gt;
<a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/national-merit-scholarships/649276-nmf-scholarships-updated-compilation-49.html#post15297679[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/national-merit-scholarships/649276-nmf-scholarships-updated-compilation-49.html#post15297679&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Many of the Ivy League schools themselves have good need-based financial aid grants. Check their net price calculators.</p>

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<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/parents-forum/696637-merit-aid-percentage-common-data-set-6.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/parents-forum/696637-merit-aid-percentage-common-data-set-6.html&lt;/a&gt;
(see post #77, keeping in mind it is now 3 years old.)</p>

<p>For more up-to-date information, see the Common Data Set (section H) of any school that interests you.</p>

<p>Kiplinger’s also is a handy resource. You can click-sort on the merit aid columns.
[Kiplinger’s</a> Best Values in Private Colleges-Kiplinger](<a href=“http://www.kiplinger.com/tool/college/T014-S001-kiplinger-s-best-values-in-private-colleges/index.php]Kiplinger’s”>http://www.kiplinger.com/tool/college/T014-S001-kiplinger-s-best-values-in-private-colleges/index.php)
[url=<a href="http://www.kiplinger.com/tool/college/T014-S001-kiplinger-s-best-values-in-private-colleges/index.php?table=lib_arts&state_code[]=ALL&id[]=none]Kiplinger’s"&gt;http://www.kiplinger.com/tool/college/T014-S001-kiplinger-s-best-values-in-private-colleges/index.php?table=lib_arts&state_code[]=ALL&id[]=none]Kiplinger’s&lt;/a&gt; Best Values in Private Colleges-Kiplinger<a href=“Kiplinger’s%20does%20not%20show%20merit%20aid%20for%20public%20schools”>/url</a>.</p>

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<p>Just from a similar student’s experience last year:</p>

<p>Wake Forest
U Miami
Vanderbilt
U Rochester
WUSTL
Pittsburgh
Alabama</p>

<p>Most of these are competitive and I may be missing a couple. I’m positive there are more in general… many schools that offer merit aid can be good. As suggested, check IPEDS from any school that interests you. If they don’t offer merit aid at all, then eliminate them (assuming you don’t qualify for need-based aid). If you do qualify for need based aid, don’t eliminate either option.</p>

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<p>How much do you want/need? What are your parents sayings?</p>

<p>do you want “free tuition” so that your remaining costs for Room, Board, Fees, Books, etc are around $15k per year? More? Less?</p>

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<p>Thanks for the replies so far. To be a bit more specific about what I want, I plan on going to medical school so the cheaper undergrad is, the better. I would much rather attend a school like WUSTL that gave me money over an ivy league status school, where I would probably find myself stressing more about keeping a high enough GPA for grad school. I was looking into these threads yesterday and I thought USC would be a really good fit, since their national merit finalist scholarship gives half tuition.</p>

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<p>Orange skins</p>

<p>My son is a freshman at WUSTL- and loving it. I’ll try to address your points:</p>

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<li>Ivy League schools do NOT provide any merit aid at all. All aid is need-based.</li>
<li>WUSTL is NOT 100% need blind. What that means is that while they offer 100% of demonstrated need, if there are a last few slots in the freshman class to choose from, they may take a student who does not need aid over one who does. However, my experience has been that they will do whatever it takes to get a student to attend. They even have payment plans to make things work, and their FA office is extremely helpful.</li>
<li>Don’t assume that the rigor of an Ivy League school is necessarily greater than other competitor schools. There are some Ivies known for grade inflation and others that are known for grade deflation. </li>
<li>What state are you from? Public schools like UM and UC may not be able to meet the need of OOS students. UVA is apparently cutting back on its ability to meet the needs of everyone. </li>
<li>WUSTL, Duke, Vanderbilt, Rice, JHU, Emory and other top privates (my apologies to those at Stanford, MIT, LAC, etc., as I don’t know as much about their policies) have merit scholarships, but they are extremely difficult to get. University of Alabama is making a big play at recruiting high stat OOS students by offering significant merit aid.</li>
<li>You are probably aware that WUSTL has a superb premed curriculum, and they have published stats on how their students do in the application process, broken down by GPA and MCAT scores. They do NOT discourage students from applying. Their stats are in the premed advising handbook, which you can google.</li>
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<p>Good luck in your search, and if you have any questions in regards to WUSTL, you can PM me.</p>

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<p>A half tuition scholarship at USC still leaves it costing $39,444 per year, based on the $62,245 cost per year minus half tuition which is $22,801 per year.
[USC</a> Financial Aid - Applying & Receiving Financial Aid - Undergraduate - Costs](<a href=“http://www.usc.edu/admission/fa/applying_receiving/undergraduates2/costs.html]USC”>http://www.usc.edu/admission/fa/applying_receiving/undergraduates2/costs.html)</p>

<p>A more impressive NMF scholarship would be the one at Texas A&M, which would leave a remaining cost of about $11,581 per year (scholarship is $10,000 per year plus out-of-state tuition waiver; in-state total cost is $21,581 per year).
<a href=“Home - SFAID”>Home - SFAID;
<a href=“https://financialaid.tamu.edu/Cost/COA_Undergrad.aspx[/url]”>https://financialaid.tamu.edu/Cost/COA_Undergrad.aspx&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Some others in the following list are full ride:
<a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/national-merit-scholarships/649276-nmf-scholarships-updated-compilation-55.html#post16379939[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/national-merit-scholarships/649276-nmf-scholarships-updated-compilation-55.html#post16379939&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>Getting a high GPA at WashU will be just as difficult as getting a high GPA at an ivy. You’re mistaken to think that somehow an ivy would be more difficult.</p>

<p>i*plan on going to medical school so the cheaper undergrad is, the better. *</p>

<p>Are you paying for your undergrad or are your parents? How much will they pay each year? Do you have a college fund that you’d rather save for med school?</p>

<p>I agree with UCB’s suggestion to look over the NMF offers and other large scholarship offers at various schools. We hardly paid anything for our son’s undergrad and now he’s in med school.</p>

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<p>Northeastern is another I forgot to add in the list above. Those are all schools with full tuition - and full ride - possibilities (competitive, esp for some). To compare stats, etc, the student with the offers had also been admitted to Stanford (but chose one of the free rides at another private U she liked). WUSTL was not on her list - I added it because I knew they could fit on it, but she didn’t care for the school when she visited - just her fit, not yours. USC might have been there. I don’t remember for sure - it sounds familiar, but it might have been cut when she decided to choose from free ride offers.</p>

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<p>Northeastern
University of Miami
Your instate school?
USC</p>

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<p>“WUSTL is NOT 100% need blind.”</p>

<p>This issue should be quite irrelevant to applicants, affecting only your chance of admittance, not how much you like the school.</p>