<p>no, not morningstar.com. he was president of morningstar community service. it's like key club or nhs, only better.</p>
<p>but seriously, morningstar.com owns yahoo finance</p>
<p>Don't know the exact numbers for BAS/BSE breakdown, but the BAS is much easier. You take a lot fewer classes. If you check out <a href="http://www.seas.upenn.edu%5B/url%5D">http://www.seas.upenn.edu</a> you can check out the number of units for each.</p>
<p>The M&T curriculum reduces a lot of Wharton requirements and allows you to double-count, so that it's easier for people to get out in 4 years. Dual degree kids have to take both school's requirements, and it's pretty much accepted you'll take 5 years. Employers also look upon the two differently.</p>
<p>frapgrl, do you know if the foreign language requirement is waived?</p>
<p>what is the difference between joint-degree and dual-degree?</p>
<p>foreign language isn't waived. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.seas.upenn.edu/under/aso_dd.html%5B/url%5D">http://www.seas.upenn.edu/under/aso_dd.html</a><br>
This is the website for dual degree, it has a link to the joint degree page. Generally joint degree programs have some classes that combine the two disciplines (MGMT 237 for M&T), and some of the requirements are waived/or double counted, while dual degree means you take all the requirements for both schools.</p>
<p>Hi frapgrl,
I wanted to know how the students typically spend their time in general? How many hours per day are spent on classwork/homework/studying (for good students who are doing well)? Also, do you know of any people who transferred into the program at the conclusion of freshman year and what courses they took in freshman year to prepare for transferring in? I just came to know about the program and wanted more info before I decide if I’d like to get in. Would you suggest auditing some wharton classes during freshman year? Can you recommend any?
Thanks!</p>
<p>honestly, from a lot of the ppl i talked to, they didn’t benefit a whole lot from the engineering degree in m&T (and engineering takes up a lot of time - you have prob sets that can take up to 5 hours for each class).</p>
<p>you’ll get the same jobs coming out of m&T as you will coming out of wharton. in fact wharton or m&Ts who did systems engineering (the easiest engineering degree) got the best jobs b/c they had the highest GPAs.</p>
<p>so unless you really enjoy engineering, or plan to become an entrepreneur w/a technical product, i wouldn’t recommend m&T. </p>
<p>in fact, if you really like engineering go to a school w/better engineering resources, like MIT. </p>
<p>the real strength of penn is wharton, b/c it’s the most well-funded, well-organized program. absolutely LOVED my wharton classes. </p>
<p>if you private message me i’ll give you my email and we can set up a time to chat on the phone.</p>
<p>Sorry to revive such an old thread, but that’s not necessarily true, frapgrl. Actually, M&T degrees are way more useful for people who like to ‘keep their options open’, so to speak. Some people can’t decide on business or med school. Degrees in both business and engineering enable you to keep both sides available. Engineering degrees don’t always lead to becoming engineers. Many bioengineering majors end up becoming doctors, for the record.</p>
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<p>If you do a dual degree between Wharton/Engineering, you get the same result but it takes 3 or 4 extra courses. There are quite a few doing regular dual degrees in my year (usually people who were accepted to Wharton)</p>
<p>From Wharton’s website:
<a href=“http://www.wharton.upenn.edu/undergrad/subPage.cfm?pageID=18#dualdegrees[/url]”>http://www.wharton.upenn.edu/undergrad/subPage.cfm?pageID=18#dualdegrees</a></p>
<p>It’s like that because for the coordinated programs, the academic people nailed out a curriculum that will work in less time.</p>
<p>hmm if i want to take a dual degree in engineering and business, what will be the usual number of years it takes to complete?</p>
<p>You have to know that engineering require a lot of classes/credits (usually more than majors in CAS) and then Wharton require quite a bit too. So I think there is a chance it will take 5 years.</p>
<p>i see, so if really want to do those two degrees in four years, it will take a considerable amount of effort, but is there anyone who managed to do that?</p>
<p>so essentially the jerome fisher program can allow me to complete in four years instead of the usual five years for a dual degree program? is that true?</p>
<p>If you have a good amount of AP credit, a good time management strategy and you have a good schedule, there is a good chance you can finish it in 4 years.</p>
<p>i see, does anyone know the number of years students take to graduate from this program?w</p>
<p>most do in 4 years</p>