<p>I was recently accepted early decision to the Jerome Fisher Program at Penn, which gives me the option to pursue a dual-degree from Wharton and the Engineering School. Normally, early decision candidates are bound to attend the school that they have signed an ED contract with if accepted, but this does not hold if the candidate opts to attend an university outside of the US. </p>
<p>I've lived in Philly for the past few years and a member of my immediate family currently goes to a graduate school program at Penn and raves about the school. This is the reason why I was confident in applying to Jerome Fisher over HYP. </p>
<p>However, I was recently accepted to a course at Oxford called Engineering, Economics, and Management (I would read at Christ Church, for those who understand the UK education system). This course essentially offers what M&T does. I am still leaning towards M&T because I am more comfortable with the american educational system, and appreciate the liberal arts education that I will receive at Penn. However, my own family is pressuring to accept Oxford's offer because of the international prestige of the school. I want to work for the UN or in the sustainable technology sector when I grow up. </p>
<p>Congratulations on your acceptance to both! I interviewed for Oxford E&M (Economics and Management) but haven’t received my decision yet, though it will most likely be a rejection. Both your acceptances are impressive, to say the least. I’m so jealous…</p>
<p>Oxford certainly beats Penn in terms of international prestige but I would seriously consider choosing Jerome Fisher over Oxford… I personally didn’t like the Oxford environment (not a campus school) that much when I visited. But really, there is no clear winner between the two.</p>
<p>It eventually comes down to which country you would like to stay in. Also, I don’t know much about EEM but isn’t it a 4 year master’s degree course like most engineering degrees in the UK? Graduating in 4 years with a master’s degree might save you some time and money as well…</p>
<p>You really can’t go wrong either way. Did I already tell you I was jealous?</p>
<p>I was just about to go to sleep, so I’m not going to delve into details right now. Check this thread or your inbox tomorrow though - I’d like to go over some of the pros and cons with some one who’s knowledgeable about Oxford. </p>
<p>And, I know exactly what you mean - Oxford has a completely different ambience compared to Penn. I’m not sure I like it either - I’d rather live in a high-rise for the next 4 years of my life than an ancient college building.</p>
<p>I’m an M&T admit too, and I hope I get to see you there!</p>
<p>Honestly, it’s a simple question of if you wish to work in the United States after graduation. If you want to work in the US (especially in Finance of Technology Venture Capital or Consulting) - Jerome Fisher is top notch, and beats out Oxford. However, if you want to work anywhere internationally, it’s quite to hard to beat Oxford’s reputation. You can go great places from both places, so make sure you visit Oxford (since I’m sure you’re familiar already with Penn). Oxford is different, and England is all together a different country.</p>
<p>Then the question is why on earth did you make an open application rather than choosing a college you would like? Given that if you don’t like ancient college buildings, you will probably hate at least 35 of the 39 colleges.</p>
<p>I have never heard of this Jerome Fisher stuff. Means nothing to me (sounds like a character in a children’s book? Is that Jeremy Fisher? He’s a frog). However, it sounds like you really don’t want to go to Oxford and will hate it, or at least be determined to hate it, if you go there. Try telling your family that they are going to be spending an awful lot of money to make you very unhappy, which will at best be tortuous for you and at worst lead you to drop out and waste their money. They would be better spending the money on a college course of your choice.</p>
<p>^Jerome Fisher at Penn(dual degree in Wharton and Penn’s Engineering school) is perhaps the world’s best feeder program in to jobs in finance. In this respect, it will surpass any degree program at Oxbridge. So instead of mocking it, you could have googled it.</p>
<p>Yawn. Yet another extremely over aggressive American (jadedwhartonguy - be careful never to leave the US in your life. You won’t go down well). I really can’t be bothered. I was only trying to help.</p>
<p>Final Verdict after a long pensive walk: There’s no point in going to a school if I’m unhappy, no matter how exceptional it is. That will almost certainly set me up for failure. Given that I’m perfectly content with the Penn campus and that I will be matriculating from what’s basically an honors program at an ivy league school, I’ve decided to go with the Jerome Fisher Program.</p>
<p>Graduating from Penn with a undergraduate degree from the world’s best business school and a highly-regarded engineering school will set me up with a plethora of opportunities. Exhibit A: <a href=“http://www.joycemeng.com/joycemengresume.pdf[/url]”>http://www.joycemeng.com/joycemengresume.pdf</a> . For those who can’t be bothered to read the link, Ms. Meng graduated from the Huntsman program at Penn and was selected as both a Rhodes Scholar and Marshall scholar, earning masters degrees from Balliol college, Oxford at the top of her class. So if I excel in college, there’s always that road. Now, of course she did graduate from Penn with a 4.0 GPA, but it’s also clear to me that the dual-degree programs at Penn gives me more job prospects and internships than Oxford would during my college years because I am an american citizen. I have found that all Jerome Fisher students secure an internship on wall street before their sophomore year (Ms. Meng worked with Bain Capital and Goldman Sachs) and an internship with an engineering firm before their senior year. I have actually met several M&T alums before I applied, and I am sure with their guidance, I am headed for four years that I will never regret with the Jerome Fisher Program.</p>
<p>For the Red and Blue! Gad, I hope I made the right, bloody decision.</p>
<p>The thread is called “Jerome Fisher vs Oxford EEM.” You had no idea what Jerome Fisher was, so why did you respond to the thread? </p>
<p>But thanks for the snobbery, old sport. And sorry for wasting the time of a posh Londoner.</p>
<p>With regard to the original poster, Jerome Fisher is an awesome program, but do not underestimate it. The idea of that girl getting a 4.0 along with all of those other activities is insane. But I’ve met British kids here who turned down Oxbridge for Wharton, and none of them have expressed any regret.</p>
<p>jadedwhartonguy - I am sorry you have no place to express your aggression other than to complete strangers on the internet. However, please continue to do so if the alternative is going out to play with weapons (as I know disturbed American teens are want to do). </p>
<p>If you read my second post, I actually said the OP should choose the place he really wants to go (Wharton) rather than where his family wants him to go (Oxford). Because that’s waht the OPs original post is really all about. Where he wants to go versus where his family want him to go. It doesn’t matter what he intends to study. I think the important thing is that he is happy and is therefore able to reach his potential in college. However, if I was the OP I wouldn’t want to be anywhere on the same campus as you.</p>
<p>You need to get over this “I am the greatest and I will attack anyone
who does not bow down and worship me and my point of view” complex. Not a way to make friends and influence people.</p>
<p>Your posts are more aggressive and insult-laced than my own. I could go through your last post and cherry pick a dozen different insults. I’m done with this thread, but thanks for the life lessons ultra-educated Oxford bro.</p>
<p>I can just imagine cupcake sitting there in front of his computer with a half-full bottle of whisky, a cigarette in his mouth, and let’s not forget his cheerful personality…</p>