Johns Hopkins vs Yale?

College Search & Selection
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<p>I've recently applied to graduate entry programs in nursing (accelerated bachelors + masters) and have been accepted to Johns Hopkins University. I am still pending admission with Yale University but have several worries about which institution to choose.</p>

<p>I have compiled a short list of the advantages/disadvantages for each program that will affect my decision:</p>

<p>The Yale program does not issue the bachelors degree because they do not meet accreditation requirements in the curriculum.</p>

<p>Yale begins their program in the fall which would allow time to secure housing (dorms are offered for nursing students at Yale but not Johns Hopkins).</p>

<p>The Hopkins program would begin right after I graduate from my undergrad institution (late may) and I would need to find housing and start the program by the first week of June.</p>

<p>Johns Hopkins awards a bachelors and then transitions into the masters program.</p>

<p>I know that Johns Hopkins is considered strong in the medical field but I believe that nursing falls under a separate spectrum. In the US News rankings, JHU was ranked #4 overall for masters nursing programs while Yale was ranked #10. However, in my speciality, for some reason, JHU is not mentioned while Yale ranks in at #4.</p>

<p>While it may be regional, several people I have talked to are unaware of Johns Hopkins. However, they recognize Yale at the drop of a hat. Will this type of distinction remain into my field or will my partners (doctors) be able to note that Johns Hopkins is a vigorous institution?</p>

<p>I have read several times on various boards "since nurses are in shortage it doesn't matter where you receive your degree". However, I would like to receive the best possible education so that I will be confident as a healthcare provider.</p>

<p>Several people have commented on other boards to avoid the Yale nursing program at all costs. I take these opinions with a grain of salt. After all, it IS an Ivy League right? Are all of their programs created equal?</p>

<p>Any advice would be much appreciated, as I am currently stuck. I know that I should not care whether one school is an Ivy or not, but will this play a role down the line?</p>

<p>Thanks!</p>

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<p>I was going to say Yale (based on the name), hands down till i saw (below)</p>

<p>"The Yale program does not issue the bachelors degree"</p>

<p>However then i saw this and Im back to yale...John Hopkins will be really hard to find housing and whats worse its in the middle of Baltimore...which is...lets just say not the best area.</p>

<p>"While it may be regional, several people I have talked to are unaware of Johns Hopkins. However, they recognize Yale at the drop of a hat. Will this type of distinction remain into my field or will my partners (doctors) be able to note that Johns Hopkins is a vigorous institution?"</p>

<p>people in the medical field will recognize JHU right away...and its known for its rigor and producing great medical professionals...Yale everyone will know no matter what....its like finance many people dont know wharton but every one recognizes harvard business school right away..</p>

<p>"Several people have commented on other boards to avoid the Yale nursing program at all costs. I take these opinions with a grain of salt. After all, it IS an Ivy League right? Are all of their programs created equal?"</p>

<p>You should never take what anyone says with a grain of salt (no trying to be little you or anything) but there is probably a reason people are saying this...you should pm them and investigate why...and you said "several" which would raise a red flag right away for me. Furthermore, all programs are not created equal at yale or Hopkins even at Harvard. </p>

<p>In the end i would choose Hopkins....just the fact that people at yale or anyone at alll are complaining about the program will give me second thoughts and def raise red flags...in the medical field you are not at a disadvantage b/c they are both TOP institutions. Remember whichever program you choose its not going to be cheap...i would think log and hard and reach out to the people who know about the programs...</p>

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<p>Johns Hopkins...all things considered :)</p>

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<p>I would say that doctors would give you more respect just for saying that you have a degree, any degree from Yale. Not that I think doctors are superficial, arrogant P R icks or anything ;)</p>

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<p>^Maybe for the rest of the world, but JHU is known for its medicine programs.</p>

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However then i saw this and Im back to yale...John Hopkins will be really hard to find housing and whats worse its in the middle of Baltimore...which is...lets just say not the best area.

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<p>While Baltimore is not the best city in the world, the area around JHU is not bad. The entire city is not what you see on The Wire :P </p>

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Will this type of distinction remain into my field or will my partners (doctors) be able to note that Johns Hopkins is a vigorous institution?

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Johns Hopkins has one of the best med schools in the country. The hospital is often ranked as THE best hospital in the country. I don't think you're going to run into a name recognition problem among doctors ;) </p>

<p>In the end, I don’t think you could go very wrong with either. If I were you, I’d try to find out more about why your specialty was not ranked for JHU. Also look into cost differences, location differences, etc, and try to figure out where you would be happier.</p>

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<p>Any medical professional (practicioner or allied health) will recognize the strength of a degree or even the completion of a non-degree program from Johns Hopkins. Seriously, JHU was the first serious research university created in the US.</p>

<p>JHU grants a BSN and an MSN while Yale grants just the MSN? That sounds like you're getting 2 degrees for the price of 1, and there's nothing wrong with that! Even though 2 versus 1 (master's, not bachelor's) would make little difference in the actual knowledge (presuming you aren't doing any clinical or research speciality with either program) that you'll recieve.</p>

<p>Good luck!</p>

<p>(Also, quick questions: why did you decide to do nursing instead of MD/DO or PA, and do you plan to do any specialization or research, such as critical care, APPN or APRN?)</p>

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<p>gstb: don't worry about hopkins' safety. it was recently named #1 in safety by a survey of colleges and universities. baltimore is a pretty cool city. don't underestimate it.</p>