<p>if you apply for one of penn's joint degree programs and you are not admitted specifically into said program can you still be admitted to one of the university's four undergrad colleges?</p>
<p>if they like you enough</p>
<p>(not sure how i managed to leap above the original post here, but whatev)</p>
<p>Yes; there should have been a place on the app for you to indicate which school you would like to be considered for.</p>
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<p>wow, what an intelligent, well-formulated, and helpful response. thank you so much.</p>
<p>@CDN
so applying to one of the programs does not make it intrinsically harder to gain admittance at upenn?</p>
<p>MIT no need to be sarcastic... that was the truth
(more post jumping)</p>
<p>i should hope it was blatantly obvious i was being sarcastic - moreover, there was nothing untrue about that statement.</p>
<p>anyway...</p>
<p>yes, you can be admitted to a regular degree program if you are not accepted to a joint degree program, as you would know if you read the joint degree section of the penn application.</p>
<p>there's been some debate over whether those not accepted to a joint degree program are advantaged or disadvantaged in the general pool, but my opinion is that it doesn't hurt to be considered twice.</p>
<p>it goes without saying that if you are well below the standard of your joint degree applicant peers, then your chances of acceptance in the regular pool are slim to none.</p>
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moreover, there was nothing untrue about that statement.
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there's nothing untrue about the statement "water is very wet" but that's not very helpful now is it? i guess i kind of jumped to the conclusion that you were trying to dismiss a "stupid" question. sorry.</p>
<p>anyway i was looking at the management and technology program in particular and apparently this one is the most selective. i know it says that they take 50 students each year but how many students apply?</p>
<p>btw are you sure applicants are considered twice? can anyone offer some perspective on the whole biased regular pool decisions if denied admission to joint degree program.</p>
<p>numbers aren't released... but i think its like 2% lol
and if not... it sure feels like it</p>
<p>pretty sure that applicants are evaluated again if rejected from joint degree consideration; as i recall they do joint degree applicants first, and then regular pool</p>
<p>It's all one step. Admissions officers will sit down, see you applied for a joint degree program, and ask "is this application competitive to be seriously considered for either school individually" and "is this person a good fit for the program". If the answer to the first question is yes for your back-up school but no for the other, you'll be dropped into the single-degree program and evaluated more deeply later. If the answer to the first question is no for both schools (ie not competitive for Penn at all) your application won't go on. If the answer to the first question is yes for both schools and the answer to the second question is no then you'll still be considered for the single-degree program only. If the answer to both questions is yes then your application will be sent to a smaller committee consisting of a couple admissions officers and the advisors of the program. Only that committee makes a definitive affirmative decision on joint-degree program applicants. If they say no you go back to the regular admissions officers to be considered for regular admission.</p>