<p>^The service is good but you don’t really need NHS to do that. I’m in NHS and I’ll tell you that it’s mostly just validation for the smart kids. Even the officers realize that it’s basically there just to mandate service hours. Colleges know this too, they don’t give NHS much weight anymore.</p>
<p>OK, ok, the purpose of NHS is a good one. Feeding the homeless, helping charity, etc.</p>
<p>Everything else, is a joke. Who gets in. The criteria. Meetings. Etc. It’s a joke and hardly means anything on your app. Most kids are in it because they feel obligated because they are at the top of their class.</p>
<p>I don’t even know what to say. So are you saying an admissions counselor wouldn’t be somewhat surprised if a good student wasn’t in NHS? I know I would be. It’s not just a validation of intellect, it’s a validation of your want to give a two cents and to be selfless and help others.</p>
<p>The criteria also don’t seem to be an issue. I don’t see those two idiot thugs with severe inferiority complex who blast their bass in their cars and spill water everywhere on purpose just to see who falls get in. I also haven’t seen a case where our NHS supervisor showed any pity towards those who failed to pay their dues, attend meetings, or fail to complete their services/keep up their grades. They were put on probation, pure and simple. </p>
<p>As to not needing NHS to provide service, of course you don’t need NHS. NHS just makes it a thousand times easier in order to accomplish the goals and proposed services set by the members. The organization also serves as a reminder to always do well in whatever you do, especially in service, leadership, scholarship, and character.</p>
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<p>Nope. </p>
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<p>That seems like a pretty ballsy thing to say…</p>
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<p>No, not really. The reality is, admissions committees cannot compare all of their students with one another. They review each case individually, and one person could get in with worse credentials than someone who was rejected, if for no other reason than human error.</p>
<p>I am not saying I definitely deserved to be admitted; I’m just saying that your point that my classmates were definitely accepted over me because they simply deserved it more is a stretch. Some of them did, and some of them were the morons who had to cheat off of me and still got mediocre grades. My school is a bit of an anomaly in that we’re an OOS school with a 65% acceptance rate at Mich- we had 25 students accepted just last year. With this many students applying, there’s bound to be some kids getting lucky and unlucky.</p>
<p>Once again, I’m not mad about this. I am happily going to Tulane, and my decision from Michigan at this point is irrelevant. I am responding to the notion that the kids who were accepted to schools I was rejected from DEFINITELY deserved it over me, when in some cases, this just isn’t true.</p>
<p>I don’t like it when students compare themselves to people “they know” that got in. </p>
<p>First of all, are you sure they got in? Did you see the acceptance? Is the student actually going to go there? Or did they say they were admitted but mysteriously ended up going to some third rate school instead?</p>
<p>Secondly, just because a student does not have as high a GPA or SAT does not mean he/she is not as well suited for the University. Perhaps that student works 30 hours per week or is highly involved in the community. Perhaps the student excels at an extra curricular activity that the University values. Maybe she/he wrong an excellent college essay that really exposed deep and personal feelings. Or perhaps that student showed much more passion for the University, making her/him a better fit. </p>
<p>Of course, there are instances where a student will get in with a relatively weaker application (ECs, essays, personal profile etc…) while another with a stronger application will be rejected. What do you expect with 38,000 applicants?! </p>
<p>Bottom line, Michigan rejects many excellent students annually, and that trend is going to only intensify in the next 3-4 years.</p>
<p>My son appled near the RD deadline, and has heard nothing.
Meanwhile he has heard from everywhere else and has already made a matriculation decision.</p>
<p>It would be in the university’s interest to get on the same response schedule as other schools. Once someone has made that psychological commitment, it becomes much harder to reconsider Michigan should they ultimately receive an offer of admission.</p>
<p>Oh my god, In regard to How2Pay4college’s remarks–I thought they were hysterical. If the people who freaked out go to Michigan, you need to take a course in Literature and learn the term IRONY, SARCASM, and some colloquialisms “yanking your chain”–“pulling your leg” etc. It is obviously written “tongue in cheek” and it is somewhat clever since he is clearly upsetting many people. Relax Mich rep’s–you can’t seem to take any criticisms of your university.</p>
<p>so…</p>
<p>let sleeping ******bags lie?</p>
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yes, because you just encourage their reply and it becomes a debate online that veers from the original topic–see we are both still discussing</p>
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It doesn’t mean that they are any better, though. Since their work ethic is unproven, what happens when they don’t have an easier time with something?</p>
<p>My point was, I hold integrity AND quote unquote intelligence to a similar if not same standard. Yes, you’re right in saying how hard one works doesn’t matter, but I think you’re not reading very carefully. I’m saying if someone works on their own, learns, AND retains the material, they are better than the person who doesn’t do the work at all (because of laziness, who knows what motive they have, etc). Obviously if both can get the same job done without doing certain things, then maybe there is no problem at that moment in time. </p>
<p>Go ahead and throw a red herring at the argument if you would like, my point in that example was to juxtapose the “values” that NHS holds high with the actions of the person in question in order to show how ironic the situation is. The validity of NHS is irrelevant (I agree that it is rather pointless on Apps. I am a member and did not include it on apps)</p>
<p>Guys…just chill and wait…</p>
<p>At least UM reads all its applications, unlike other schools that automatically rejects students based on GPA/ACT/SAT with a computer system when they don’t have enough time to read all applications. </p>
<p>Be optimistic…</p>
<p>Guys. I don’t know about your NHS…but our NHS was really good and effective…We had to work our bums off… We managed to give like 15students full scholarship to go to high school in Ghana and we also helped Liberian Refugees …</p>
<p>“At least UM reads all its applications, unlike other schools that automatically rejects students based on GPA/ACT/SAT with a computer system when they don’t have enough time to read all applications.”</p>
<p>How did you know UMichigna read all its applications?</p>
<p>^Because they took till April 21st to release decisions. You obviously think you’re the **** and any university would be stupid not to take you, so the only way they didn’t is if they just rejected you without reading anything. Exactly the type of person we don’t want on campus. Just move on and get off the Michigan forum.</p>
<p>Topic forced me to post on this thread. FYI, lots people did get their acceptance decisions in December. UofM obviously got a load of applications this year due to being part of common app. As a result, many were deferred and later got waitlisted. Sadly, some kids from Ann Arbor high school with ACT scores of 34 also got wait listed which baffles me because UofM is supposed to serve in state students first and then the out of state students. Either way, the school is becoming highly selective. Please do not discourage anyone from applying to UofM. Ask any student here and almost none regrets coming to Ann Arbor. Go Blue!</p>
<p>^^It will be interesting to see the “numbers” when all is said and done of IS, OSS and Internationals to see if they changed it up this year or not. It would also be interesting to know the number of OSS kids that applied this year vs. other years not really understanding much about the school or how admissions operates. This year was not all that different from previous years with kids waiting until the bitter end for decisions…just more kids it feels like.</p>
<p>"^Because they took till April 21st to release decisions. You obviously think you’re the **** and any university would be stupid not to take you, so the only way they didn’t is if they just rejected you without reading anything. Exactly the type of person we don’t want on campus. Just move on and get off the Michigan forum. "</p>
<p>This is the typical UMichignan defense, no logic, no reasoning, no brain. If you try to defense for the university, try to pretend you do not speak like an idiot. Whether UMichigan accepts my kid or not is not irrelevant at all. BTW, do you owe the forum? from what you talk, I doubt.</p>