JUNIORS- what's your list looking like?

<p>The only match MIT might be is personality. Admissions? Absolutely not. </p>

<p>I’m not saying you won’t get in, but I am saying that you shouldn’t count on it. You’ve given us no reason to believe that MIT is a match, in fact, quite the opposite.</p>

<p>Oh, and good luck to all the other juniors!</p>

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<p>Wow! Thank you so much! This helped me out a lot.</p>

<p>Can you guys help me out too? I posted my (tentative) list and my stats. By the way, I’m a girl who’s interested in either Chemistry or Biochemistry.</p>

<p>Probably…</p>

<p>Reaches-Chicago (EA), MIT(EA), Princeton, Rice, Northwestern, Williams.
Safety/Match- Penn State(Schreyer).</p>

<p>Silverturtle will kick all of us around next year.</p>

<p>Can everyone stop bashing Silverturtle? I know that he got a 2400, so that makes his chances at MIT 1 in 2. That’s as far as I’ll estimate, but by his definition of “match”, MIT certainly fits the bill. At the schools he listed as “low reach”, his chances are closer to 1 in 3. This is of course without additional info besides his SAT score, but his assumptions are definitely valid. :slight_smile:
Good luck everyone!</p>

<p>I’m not bashing Silverturtle. His chances , based only on the assumption that his SATs are over 2300 and his GPA very high, are above average, but a great deal depends on other things as well , including ECs. Most kids applying to MIT have SATs that are very high. Again, looking at MIT’s own data - SATs in writing of 750-800 give you an admit rate of 20%, and 750-800 in math gives you a 12% rate. A 2400 will certainly be noticed, but , particularly if it comes after a lot of retakes and without anything else impressive, it won’t carry much weight. And, Silverturtle says he has no impressive ECs.
Kids with 2400s and nothing else have gotten bad news before.
I’m not saying that he shouldn’t apply to the big name schools - just that it is rather arrogant to suggest that he has a very large chance of getting in.</p>

<p>could someone help me organise my matches and reaches (and impossibilities, haha)?</p>

<p>white female, first gen college student, southeast va public school
current gpa 3.8/4.3 (should go to 3.9/4.7 by graduation)
current rank 15/504
sat 720m 720cr 750w (am taking again on saturday)
planning on taking sat IIs and act
7 aps and all honors classes
several volunteering and club extra curriculars (no sports though), many leadership positions held</p>

<p>my list:
boston c
william & mary
cornell
duke
georgetown
tufts
u penn
u rochester
uva
vanderbilt
wake forest</p>

<p>safeties:
george mason
tech</p>

<p>thanks (:</p>

<p>Regardless of what any applicant considers a low reach or match, as long as he has a definite safety he would be willing to go to, it’s ok!</p>

<p>I’ll probably apply to UC’s.</p>

<p>spayette13, you asked for my comments so here goes …

First, I suggest you think about whether these schools go together in a coherent way.<br>
It almost looks like two lists. You have some LACs in the middle, with some mid-large universities at either end.There’s no law against mixing the two types (or any variety or types), you just need to consider if that’s what you really want. My own preference is to see the likeliest match reflect the characteristics of the reachiest reach. In your list, I see Bates at one end and Stanford at the other, two very different schools. Are you o.k. with that?</p>

<p>Second, with respect to the reach/match/safety breakdown, your schools are assigned to the right levels with respect to each other, mostly. Davidson is more selective than you seem to think. Here is a list that ranks the top 75 schools, both LACs and Universities, by selectivity according to a composite US News formula based on both admit rate and scores:</p>

<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/college-search-selection/687793-selectivity-ranking-national-us-lacs-combined-usnews-method.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/college-search-selection/687793-selectivity-ranking-national-us-lacs-combined-usnews-method.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Of course, whether your list truly reflects your chances depends on your qualifications. So, one would have to see your stats etc to judge. And I’d have to know a little about your interests to comment on whether these seem to be appropriate choices for you. If Duke reflects where your heart is on the reach end (for warm weather and a big sports scene), then Wake Forest might be a better complement than Bates as a match. Also take a look at Furman. For a safety, again, if you are looking for warm weather and a big sports scene, maybe Clemson would work better for you than Northeastern (assuming either one is truly an admission and financial safety for you.)</p>

<p>Reach: Brown, Columbia
High Match: Barnard, Macaulay@ Hunters, Ba/md Brookyln college, Sophie Davis
Mathc: Fordham U
Safety: Hunter</p>

<p>ehhh dats wat ive been thinking so far… but my high matches are wat a really want, especially Barnard :D</p>

<p>tk…</p>

<p>My Stats:
4.25 W GPA (Around 3.8 UW)
Top 10% of class (School Does not rank; top public school in RI)
3 years varsity basketball (captain)
3 years varsity soccer
Editor in chief of newspaper
Founder of Student voices (Student based school improvement group)
National Honors society
Decent community service
30 ACT (first time w/o preparation… now around 32 on practice tests)</p>

<p>Interests:
Defiantly attracted to the large sport schools such as Duke. I do have a couple of the LAC just because they are close to me and have visited them and thought the campuses were nice. Wake Forest is definitely the type of school i am most interested in and although warm weather would be nice its not a huge factor. I like the boston based schools so i will definitely keep Northeastern on my list (also like there CO-OP program) . Ya if you can give me any more info now it would be very much appreciated!!</p>

<p>^ O.K., so your list makes more sense to me. They look like good choices for you. The one change I’d suggest is to replace Bates with Wake Forest. Other schools you might like include USC, Vanderbilt, Emory, Georgetown, Villanova, and Loyola University Maryland.</p>

<p>Awesome ill be sure to take them all into account. Are those all reasonable options for me then?</p>

<p>Super Reach:
Brown
Penn
Williams/Amherst</p>

<p>Reach:
Gtown SFS (#1)
Cornell
Middlebury</p>

<p>Match:
BC
Tufts
Colgate</p>

<p>Safety:
GWU
UMich
Skidmore</p>

<p>Does this look sensible?</p>

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<p>spayette13, “reasonable” comes in several varieties. Reasonable fit, reasonable chance of admissions, reasonable cost. With respect to “fit” and your admissions chances, your list is looking reasonable (still, check out the other schools I listed). Assuming your apps are well prepared and your grades don’t dive and you stay out of jail, you should have some good outcomes (probably not 100% success, which is to be expected if you’re aiming high).</p>

<p>I don’t think you said anything about money so I take it that’s not an issue? If it is, you’d want to re-think your safety - at least - because an expensive private university does not make for a good financial safety. I mentioned Clemson before. Even at OOS rates, it’s about $10K-$15K cheaper than Northeastern (it’s also a better “warm weather jock school w/good academics” if that’s what you want). Even then, it might not be a suitable financial safety. It all depends on your situation. Families with low EFCs must look for good need-based aid. Middle class families struggling with high EFC (or affluent students struggling with cost-conscious parents) need to look for some combination of lower Cost of Attendance and merit scholarships.</p>

<p>hopter, your list probably is a sensible list for somebody but the question is, is it sensible for YOU? Nobody can tell without seeing your stats and at least a few words about your interests or goals.</p>

<p>From your choices, it looks like you are interested in government or international realtions. For that, Georgetown SFS and Tufts are great choices if you have the stats for those schools. If you want a very selective LAC for the same interests, Middlebury is a great choice. Bowdoin is another good LAC for government. Among selective universities with strong programs in International Relations, also consider Johns Hopkins. GWU or American University are other good, somewhat less selective choices; however, for most good students, they are not so much less selective (or inexpensive) that you can consider them safety schools. If you live in Michigan and have sufficient stats, then you are very lucky because in that case, Michigan could be an ideal safety.</p>

<p>At the super selective end, Columbia may be a better pick than some of the ones you have, for two reasons. First, it has one of the top rated IR departments in the country (for research at the graduate level anyway). That’s assuming IR/government is your thing (based on your listing GU/SFS, Tufts, and GW). Second, it would give you all the internship and entertainment opportunities of New York City. But, it’s a very different place than Amherst. Amherst has an “Open Curriculum” (few requirements). Columbia, like Chicago, has a “Core” curriculum with required courses covering traditional Western literature, history, etc.</p>

<p>High Reaches: Brown, Penn State, BC
Reaches: DePaul, Northwestern
Matches: Beloit, Salem State University, UNCSA, Ithaca, Muhlenberg
Safties: Columbia College Chicago, Plymouth State University, Elmira</p>

<p>I would like to go for Technical Theatre/Stage Management and think these are pretty reasonable. (Although it clearly will need to be trimmed)</p>