<p>Can you place the ivies in order, 1 being the hardest and 10 being the easiest, of how hard they are to get into?</p>
<p>Also, how hard are they to STAY in? I have heard that Harvard is harder to get into then stay into, obviously still hard to stay, but you know...Thanks! I'm just curious :]
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<p>For getting into:</p>
<p>1) Yale --------
2) Harvard ---- These are all pretty much equal
3) Princeton —</p>
<p>4) Columbia
5) Brown
6) Dartmouth
7) Penn (except for Wharton)
8) Cornell</p>
<p>if 10 was hardest and 1 was easiest to get into</p>
<p>9.9: Harvard, Yale
9.7: Princeton, Columbia (had a lower acceptance rate than Princeton this year), Wharton
9.5: Brown, Dartmouth, Penn CAS / Engineering, Cornell Engineering
9.3: Cornell A&S</p>
<p>to put this in perspective I would put MIT at a 9.8, Stanford at a 9.7, Northwestern at a 9.1, University of Michigan at an 8.5, USC would be an 8.0</p>
<p>In terms of staying in, if 10 was easiest to stay in and 1 was hardest:</p>
<p>9.7: Brown
9.6: Yale, Dartmouth
9.5: Harvard, Columbia, Upenn
9.4: Princeton, Cornell</p>
<p>basically given that you got in, it is very easy to stay in, there isn’t too much variation between the schools.</p>
<p>confidentialcoll, who’s 10?</p>
<p>it’s just a rating, I want to leave room for error in case some specialty schools comes along and claims to be more competitive to get into than H.</p>
<p>thanks everyone! what about georgetown, middlebury and duke comparatively?</p>
<p>[National</a> Universities Rankings - Best Colleges - Education - US News and World Report](<a href=“http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/national-universities-rankings/]National”>http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/national-universities-rankings/) </p>
<p>This is the most commonly used college ranking list. For all the schools you are interested, find them, and click on them. It will show you the acceptance rates for all universities in the US. Of course, the lower the acceptance rate, the harder it is to get into.</p>
<p>Gtown - 8.9-9.0 ; Don’t know probably 9.4-9.5
Middlebury - 9.0 ; probably 9.6
Duke - 9.4 ; probably 9.5</p>
<p>wow thanks all! that link is great.</p>
<p>Deep Springs College would probably be a 10 on the scale. It’s acceptance rate varies each year due to the changing number of applicants, but last year they had a 7% acceptance rate.</p>
<p>^except the whole college is 26 students, sorry not applicable.</p>
<p>You’re welcome, dreamingawake25 :)</p>
<p>actually I just looked at some numbers, in terms of difficulty to get in Northwestern is probably a 9.3, USC is probably an 8.8 and Michigan is probably an 8.2.</p>
<p>i like the scale concoll, if only somehow data would align.</p>
<p>but the point is that they are all rather bunched.</p>
<p>Where would you put UChicago on the 10 point scale? Just curious.</p>
<p>getting into? 9.1 - what do you think concoll? the numbers don’t lie, uchi is not quite in the same boat as the ivies.</p>
<p>but it is pretty hard to stay in.</p>
<p>^Chicago has very high acceptance rates, but actually really high average SAT scores as well. I’d say SAT scores / rank aren’t the only indicators of difficult to get in/ selectivity, the application has many subjective qualities and even for a given level of rank + sat scores, lower acceptance rates make it more difficult to get in. If anything having historically low acceptance rates push students with low scores to apply only if they have something else extra-ordinary about them, this cannot be quantified, and if you ask me to somehow prove this, I will say that the absence of proof does not equal proof of absence. </p>
<p>so in my head all things considered Uchicago gets a ~9.3 for selectivity, in terms of staying in probably a 9.1. Yes there is some grade deflation, but it isn’t that severe, and Chicago still graduates similar proportions of its class. A place like Caltech would get a 7.5 on my difficult to stay-in scale, MIT probably a ~8.7. In my mind caltech is easily one of the most difficult schools to stay in and do well, even given that you have been accepted in the first place.</p>
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<p>Chicago’s acceptance rate is being predicted to be 18-19% for this year, which is in the same range as Penn and Cornell.</p>
<p>yeah, it took selling out to the common app to get to Ivy territory, but they lose out heavy on cross-admits with Ivies and have a far lower yield.</p>
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<p>Most Ivies already use the Common App, so it was just leveling the playing field. The reason for the lower yield is that Chicago doesn’t have very good FA, so many students with Chicago as their first choice have to resort elsewhere. But even so, if you don’t count the ED apps to the Ivies which artificially boosts yield, Chicago’s yield is only slightly lower than the Ivies.</p>