Just how strong is ND academically?

Colleges & Universities A-Z University of Notre Dame
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<p>Hey, guys, we’re ■■■■■■■■! I, for one, wasn’t aware, but I guess you just can’t argue with someone from the Toughest Ivy, because he probably knows his stuff. </p>

<p>Also, can I borrow someone’s thesaurus? I’m an English major, but I’m so woefully unprepared by my meager Notre Dame education that I just can’t seem to process some of the really big sounding words getting thrown around. I think Cornell is arguing about something, and I expect there’s a rather strong undercurrent of derision running through all of them, but frankly, he’s just WAY TOO SMART AND WELL EDUCATED TO UNDERSTAND! JEEZ LOUISE!</p>

<p>So, who’s happy with their Notre Dame education, raise your hand? Who feels it’s academically challenging? Who is perfectly content with its national reputation for excellence and longstanding tradition in the Liberal Arts (as well as Catholic identity, social activism, and football)? And, (this one is for those students who are lurking and garnering information about ND and other schools from these posts), who is impressed with the lucidity of argument, general politeness, and helpfulness of basically everyone on this board representing Our Lady’s great University? </p>

<p>Yea, me too.</p>

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obviously not.</p>

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<p>the better things he has to do include accusing people posting in the “I chose ND over…” thread of lying about where else they were accepted.</p>

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<p>Ok in all honesty here, my daughter was strongly considering Cornell…Thanks to Cornell’s #1 ASS she dropped it off her list! Wahoooooo!!! Mind you cornell2011 it’s not the school that is unworthy, she love’s it. She is concerned it will be full of you’s, arrogant, egotistical, NERDS! (her words!)</p>

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<p>^it’s pathetic isn’t it. clearly he needs professional help for his inferiority complex. I wish everyone would just ignore him instead of giving him the attention he craves.</p>

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<p>For the record, I would like some attention, too. My comments happen to pretty hilarious, and yet, are consistently ignored. Just throwin’ that out there.</p>

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<p>-high fives fellow ■■■■■■■-</p>

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<p>DO NOT call us ■■■■■■■. Being ■■■■■■■■ is a serious mental disability. Think before you type.
And if you have such great rhetoric, stop ending your sentences with prepositions.</p>

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<p>We should be grateful to this little snob sitting before his spittle-flecked computer screen. I mean we of course all knew about Cornell, but how many of us truly realized that it is the greatest institution in the world, through whose portals only geniuses may enter? Even I, a time-traveling playwright who has seen so much through the millennia, was shaken by this epiphany.</p>

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<p>Don’t hold anything against Cornell, there are good and bad representatives, just like with ND. There is a student in my program from Cornell and she is very kind, not stuck up at all, and hardly ever mentions where she went to school. I, however, do mention ND quite a bit, but I don’t think that is an awful thing :). There are good people at both schools and annoying people at both.</p>

<p>Case in point, I was in East Lansing a few years back (remember the rainy Brady Quinn comeback) and was at Buffalo Wild Wings where there were some very very drunk ND fans that kept grabbing their waitress and ended up getting kicked out. While I think they were just fans and not alums, it was quite embarrassing to me. All schools have some of these.</p>

<p>Lastly, as to why Cornell is sometimes thought of as being so hard, it may be due to their suicide rate in the past. I have heard that it is better but it used to be high. There were rumors that around finals time they would put up nets on the bridges on campus, but I heard this is not the case. That being said, I kind of wish schools would (remember, I am a suicide researcher, so I am more passionate about it than a lot of people). Anyway, that may be where that came from.</p>

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<p>May I point out that Notre Dame is third and Cornell is FOURTH for undergrad business in this year’s rankings?</p>

<p>I am applying at both schools for next year, and if I get accepted at both it will be a difficult choice.</p>

<p>Cornell is Ivy so that name alone carries a lot of weight and I’m more worried about getting accepted there. The reputation is great across the board, but I did smile when I saw the school of hotel administration.</p>

<p>Notre Dame poses the issue of religion, and while I have gone to a Catholic church every Sunday my entire life, I have zero interest in taking theology classes in school or having the Catholic School tag, which unfortunately is looked down upon in many cases. Still, I’m interested in undergrad business and Notre Dame delivers.</p>

<p>This would be a tough choice for me to say the least. Both schools are pretty close to a relative and a major city. Both have good reputations and undergrad business programs.</p>

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<p>Yeah but which one will you enjoy more?? (We know thats Notre Dame lol). All in all though if you do happen to get accepted to both, I do not think you can go wrong with choosing either or for whatever preferences you have, both are great universities, even if one has Cornell2011…</p>

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<p>Haha. Good point. :)</p>

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<p>Woo hoo! GO IRISH!
face it everyone…only two types of people out there…those who go to Notre Dame…and those who wish they did!<br>
…enough said!</p>

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<p>Great Post ^^!!!</p>

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<p>Cornell? Are you serious? Your school is a joke among us real Ivies! You talk about this tradition of academic excellence like that somehow translates into a tangible difference in quality of education, Knock knock, all of us were founded pre-Revolution and don’t have 13,500 undergraduates. Cornell was founded in 1865—23 years after Notre Dame! How in the hell are you even in the Ivy League? Seriously, I don’t know where you get this massive superiority complex from. In every conceivable aspect your precious alma mater trails the Ancient 7 by oh, let’s be kind and say, light-years. Seriously, it’s like Cornell is the Welfare case of the Ivy League. Quit riding the coattails of the real Ivies!</p>

<p>As for the difference in student population, while you may claim to be an exception having turned down Harvard, at the heart of it, Cornell is really just a bunch of HYP rejects. What’s your yield rate over there? Sub-50%? You’re right, this probably lends itself to a quality teaching environment. And what’s the deal with those SUNY schools? I honestly don’t know what the deal is, but I remember joking with my friends about SUNY-Cornell. Wow, my anecdotes and references to flawed rankings systems are just as convincing as yours!</p>

<p>I never really looked at Notre Dame (or Cornell for that matter) when I was in high school, but if I had to go back and do it all again, I think Notre Dame is a really under-estimated school. I was a junior at Harvard when my brother (who was objectively more intelligent than me) told me he was going to Notre Dame and I was shocked that he would pick this school out in the middle of Indiana which I regarded as the equal of say, Fordham, over Harvard, Columbia, and MIT. Putting aside the Notre Dame mystique or whatever you want to call it (of which Ivy, Junior out in Upstate has absolutely zilch), I feel confident in saying that the quality of undergraduate programs at Notre Dame is superior to that of Cornell. If I had to do undergrad all over again and I were basing my decision solely on quality of education, nothing else, I would without a doubt pick ND. I don’t know where Cornell fanboy comes up with his vast separations of quality—or is that what those omnipotent peer assessments are telling us?</p>

<p>In the end, Cornell, you have absolutely no basis for judgment, I mean, who the hell are you? Have you gone to school at Notre Dame? Have you experienced the academic quality there? Yeah, it’s all well and good to pick on the quality of a perceived inferior until one of the big boys comes along and puts you in your place. That just happened. So sit down, shut up, and learn your place. No, Cornell is not better than ND, and no, you’re not smarter than us.</p>

<p>You know what they say, Ithaca is gorges this time of year!</p>

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<p>^game, set, match. nice move bringing in the Harvard closer.</p>

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<p>hahahahaha powning newbs…that was awesome</p>

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<p>This is interesting! Bump!</p>

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<p>cornell2011, the mere fact that you have come onto this message board and boasted about your superiority over Notre Dame students shows an incredibly high level of immaturity. By saying that you are part of Cornell and the Ivy Schools, you are representing those schools, and right now, you are representing them in the poorest way. If I had to choose between going to an Ivy School or another school like Notre Dame, U of M, USC, etc, based on your representation, I would choose ANY other school than Cornell, Harvard, Yale, or any of the other “superior schools”. Although you claim to be superior intelligence wise, you are a sad human being who has their underwear too tight. Pull out your wedgie and get a reality check. You can have your superiority. I’d rather be a well rounded person who doesn’t look down upon other people anyday.</p>