kelley used to be better?

<p>1996 US NEWS best undergrad business programs
kelley used to be #5</p>

<p>RANK AVG. SCORE
1
University of Michigan–Ann Arbor
3.8
1
University of Pennsylvania
3.8
3
Massachusetts Inst. of Technology
3.7
3
University of California–Berkeley
3.7
5
Carnegie Mellon University (PA) 3.6
5
Indiana University–Bloomington
3.6
5
Univ. of Illinois–Urbana-Champaign
3.6
5
Univ. of North Carolina–Chapel Hill
3.6
5
University of Texas–Austin
3.6
5
University of Virginia
3.6
11
New York University
3.5
11
Univ. of Wisconsin–Madison
3.5
13
Pennsylvania State Univ.
3.4
13
Purdue Univ.–West Lafayette (IN) 3.4
13
University of Minnesota–Twin Cities
3.4
13
University of Southern California
3.4</p>

<p>Business Week rankings for Kelley 2008-#16, 2009-#20. I don’t know what’s happening? Any thoughts?</p>

<p>Notice that patio is comparing the 1996 US News and World Report’s rankings with Business Week’s 2008 ranking. Business Week has never ranked Indiana University higher than about 15th. (Their ranking uses the “student ranking” highly–which US News and World Report doesn’t do.) </p>

<p>Because of this, school’s like BYU and Notre Dame (both of which have students who always rank their schools as the one and only best university on the planet–ahead of Harvard, Stanford, etc.) do much better in the the Business Week ranking every year than they are ever ranked in the US News ranking.</p>

<p>For example, in 2007 Notre Dame ranked about 3rd and BYU ranked 8th in the BW business school undergraduate rankings. These schools ranked about 21st and 45th, respectively in the US News and World Report ranking. </p>

<p>Last year, Indiana ranked 11th in the USNWR undergraduate business school rankings–and I expect them to be somewhere in the same vicinity this year.</p>

<p>As far as the USNWR ranking, certain schools–like NYU and the University of Virginia have spent tons of money both on hiring certain top professors (in finance at NYU and in finance and strategy at Virginia) at their business schools–and on promoting their programs–in an obvious attempt to increase their rankings. This is something Indiana couldn’t afford to do. Additionally, certain other schools–such as Texas and USC–have simply become very much more selective due to the fact that their pool of local candidates have increased by 60% or so (California and Texas between them having 6 of the 10 largest cities in the country) while their class sizes have stayed constant. Indiana at Bloomington, on the other hand, has increased the size of their business school class in order to subsidize the other programs at the school and pay for increased scholarship programs (something USC and Texas have done only for their “honors” students).</p>

<p>Despite all this, Indiana’s business program has still only fallen a few spots–and still ranks very highly overall (#11 on USNWR last year). Also, I understand that BW is considering giving a lower weighting to the “student ranking” of a school in their future business school results.</p>

<p>P.S. The new rankings for USNWR (2010 versions) come out in August.</p>

<p>Calcruzer, Thanks for that info. Do you know what standards The Public Accounting Report uses for it’s rankings?</p>

<p>Here is a report from two years ago that describes the process.
<a href=“http://www.cba.ufl.edu/fsoa/docs/PAR2007.pdf[/url]”>www.cba.ufl.edu/fsoa/docs/PAR2007.pdf</a></p>

<p>Thanks, bthomp1. I had no idea where to look, so I’m glad you had this info.</p>

<p>Thanks, Calcruzer. Here is the 2008 survey. Six big 10 schools in the top 12 now.</p>

<p><a href=“http://mason.wm.edu/news/documents/publicaccountingreportfacultysurveyresults.pdf[/url]”>http://mason.wm.edu/news/documents/publicaccountingreportfacultysurveyresults.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;