Kid got into ivy leagues by cheating

<p>Just put a random note into his locker saying that he has been reported and that there will be an investigation, possibly even arrest and expulsion for fraud and theft. Don't actually report him, but it'll be funny to watch him have his heart jump every time a teacher(or any other human being) calls him until graduation. That might teach him a lesson...</p>

<p>HAHAHA. I like that idea. I would feel bad doing that, even though this guy kind of deserves it...</p>

<p>I, as a mom, shouldn't say this, but that would be priceless, dont' tell anyone else</p>

<p>I understand your frustration. Freshman year I said it would catch up to this guy, and it never did. He's salutatorian now. I think it should be brought to the teachers' attention. Some teachers know he cheats, but ignores it. They have no idea how much their actions affect the other students. He's off to a good school and I wish him well (he's changed a little). I just hope he doesn't get himself into too much trouble in the future.</p>

<p>It'll catch up to him. I'm not just saying that because I believe in Karma (I don't). But look:</p>

<p>He doesn't know how to study - he will struggle especially in an ivy league school
He's not prepared for anything - again, he will struggle
He has a habit of cheating - cheating in college is BIG TROUBLE</p>

<p>If I were you, I would express my concern to a teacher and see what happens. If nothing happens, I would just hope it really does catch up to him.</p>

<p>Wow...everyone in my high school cheated. Copied homework, traded answers, etc. It was just...the way things were. Most didn't do it because they were lazy, it was just hard.</p>

<p>If he's that bright, and if he calls attention to it by bragging and selling tests, chances are that he's not doing it because he's lazy, but because he's an emotionally troubled kid who wants recognition and thinks he won't get it through more conventional means. I knew a kid like that; she cheated blatantly through Junior High although she could have been the best in the class on her own merit. It turned out that her mom had just had a second kid with a new H.</p>

<p>man I hate this type of people.. I myself know plenty of them.. But yeah, as all of you already said, he'll get caught. what goes around comes around, you know</p>

<p>you should report it. he's made a business of sharing tests because he hacked into the computer program? that's way beyond trading a few homework answers. you should have reported it earlier.</p>

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He's intelligent like I said, and he could get in if he actually STUDIED. However, he doesn't study at all and when he gets home he just plays video games.

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gee, that sounds exactly like my senior year at Columbia. Does he play Mario Kart? I was all about the mario kart. And the not going to classes. And the girls. And the getting-As-anyway.

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I don't think the ivy leagues would appreciate this kid.

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Oops.</p>

<p>More seriously, if it were just some answer-copying, I'd say only babies would whine about it... but I've always drawn the line at tests. Still, I'd call it water under the dam if he weren't selling these things and making a business out of it. </p>

<p>Given that in a few weeks you're going to leave high school and probably never see most of those people again if you don't want to, I'd say you have the chance to win back some satisfaction. Talk to a few people who might know what he does. See if you can get him on tape or via email (cellphone cameras are best). Failing that, get a few people to also write brief testimonials, and include a bunch of them in a complaint to the Principal, VP, and superintendant. Threaten to go to the press if they don't deal with this quickly and judiciously.</p>

<p>At that point, the administrator's jobs will be on the line, because if anyone in the press got wind of actual evidence, colleges would drop their school like it was hot for future admission years, and those administrators would be out on their ass. So you can be damn sure they'd take care of things, quietly and thoroughly.</p>

<p>Of course, all of that takes balls and a little free time, neither of which I had in high school. But if that sort of thing was going on at my college, it probably would've been busted by someone, sooner or later. If you've got a lot of righteous indignation over this, why not give it a shot?</p>

<p>Wait...are you talking about the infamous Alex Schwartz?</p>

<p>"He was able to steal teachers passwords via a keylogger...sells these tests to other kids, therefore making it impossible for anyone legit to be in the top 2% of the school."</p>

<p>Anyone in your school community who was aware of this activity, yet looked the other way, bears some resonsibility for the situation. Apparently there were a large number of people in that group if you include the test stealer, all those who acquired the goods, plus every person aware of each of those separate transactions. Add to that teachers and students who had their suspicians and never followed up. The notion of an honor code, real or implied, exists in every community. The perp is the biggest problem, but anyone allowing him to continue must assume part of the blame.</p>

<p>this thread is stupid, the guy cant even communicate how exactly this guy got things, such as "tests"</p>

<p>The same thing happened in my kids HS - students using a keylogger stole the tests out of the teachers' accounts. They also couldn't resist talking about it and selling the tests, so they were caught. They received F's in all the affected courses, but were not expelled. Some of them left town shortly thereafter.</p>

<p>If you know about this sort of egregious cheating, you owe it to yourself and every hardworking, honest kid in your school to report it, and soon, so that the keyloggers can be found before a student can remove them. Complaining on an internet bulletin board is nothing. You have to report what you know. Make an appointment with the school official who is the most open to students and tech-savvy, and tell him or her what you have said here.</p>

<p>Leave it alone. Don't be a snitch man.</p>

<p>lol i'm telling you man. If you absolutely can't control yourself, leave an anonymous tip saying that "people have been using key loggers to steal tests". That way they can up their security and ensure that it doesn't happen again. Believe me, if you nark on him you'll regret it, especially without any proof. And to put forth all that effort just to assemble evidence, he isn't even worth it. </p>

<p>Believe me, you and the little committee that you assemble will be known by others as the kids who tattle when their jealous. And it'll follow you to college because in your own mind that's who you'll be. </p>

<p>Unless you can get him caught in the act (without having to go out of your way), leave it alone.</p>

<p>I second midwesterner. At my school, even cheating on homework is grounds for disciplinary action, if discovered. </p>

<p>Even though colleges look for more than GPA, a low GPA will often keep someone out of a school he/she wants to go to. Besides, colleges also look at character, and I doubt any school will want someone who chronically cheats.</p>

<p>However, make sure that you have grounds for accusation, or know someone who does. Then go to your administrator.</p>

<p>A kid from my daughter's schools stole a test and gave it (not sold) to whoever wanted it. A student notified the school. She said since the test was going to be graded on a curve, it wasn't fair to kids that didn't have the test. Even though she didn't have any proof, the school responded by doing an investigation that lasted over 4 months. The whole class was interviewed. At the end, the cheater and his 2 friends were expelled from the school, even though those kids tried to sue the school. This whole incident made a huge impact on the school because it involved so many kids. The teacher that had the test stolen was very upset and disappointed with the class. His department threatened to not write any recommendation letters for the senior class. I have to say the kids were more upset with the cheater than with the kid that told. After he was expelled, he was not allowed to come back to school even for a visit. </p>

<p>Every school and instituion is different with their rules and regulations. Your school may not take this type of thing as seriously. But I can assure you, some day he will be at a place where he could risk losing everying he has by taking an easy way out. I have a lot of respect for what my D's school did because it was a very hard decision to expell a very popular senior. IBut think every kid at the school will think twice before cheating again.</p>

<p>If your school has honor code and takes cheating very seriously, then be forewarned that by snitching on him, it could potentially get very ugly for the whole class. It took months for my daughter's class to heal. I am not sure if you want to end your high school career like that. I like the suggestion of sending him a note to spook him.</p>

<p>cvcv.RAT HIM OUT..I HATE CHEATERS SOOOOOOO MUCH</p>