<p>Report him if you feel very strongly about academic integrity, but to me it seems that your only motive is to see him suffer.</p>
<p>That said, tests being stolen is a serious problem; tell a teacher that they're being stolen and that they have to be more cautious about things like this.</p>
<p>Wait a minute. If he sells stolen tests to other students, then you have your proof right in front of your own eyes. I doubt any of the buyers would agree, but if you could gather enough of them as witnesses of his cheating, then the administrators might believe you. </p>
<p>Also, the school needs to know about the stolen passwords. Although, I'm still wondering where yout feelings play into all of this. Is he really cheating, or are you just jealous? There is some correlation between SAT/ACT scores and GPA, even if it isn't the strongest correlation. Slackers usually don't do as well as the best on these standardized tests unless they are ridiculously lazy and possess the skills.</p>
<p>Here's something else that gets me. You say he has ECs by just joining a bunch of clubs and doing community service. If he doesn't have a single EC that he is committed to, then what did he write about in his essay? Shooting the breeze? Did he talk about how lazy he was? He couldn't have gotten into any of those schools based on his academics. It doesn't happen, so I think you're just sore.</p>
<p>Nothing you can do.
I have a guy in school who i sat next to and encouraged me to show him answers (i didn't). He cheats thru tests and also on AP this year.</p>
<p>Why didn't you do something about it when he was doing all the cheating?</p>
<p>I'm going to refrain from making any judgments as to whether or not you should or shouldn't inform someone about this cheating. The one thing I will say is if you do it, do it for the right reasons. Don't do it because you want to see this person suffer, and don't pull any of the pranks that were suggested earlier.</p>
<p>Punch the kid in the face. </p>
<p>For not showing you the test for free that is.</p>
<p>To everyone telling him not to be a rat, you guys are enablers. You know who the truly evil people are? The ones who let injustices slide- the ones who even with their own moral compass are too lazy, too apathetic to intervene in the way of cheating. By letting this cheater go, you only encourage more cheaters to cheat; you only encourage the underqualified to succeed; you only encourage the growth of cronyism and incompetency.</p>
<p>^ That guy is not by ANY means under qualified or "incompetent". I do have a problem with people getting grades that they couldn't get under normal circumstances, but from what I've read, this guy could get those grades no problem. </p>
<p>I suppose I'm biased because I'm a person who values getting the same results with little work (not that I personally cheat ... unless the opportunity is just too good to pass up ;)) vs. hard work, but this is not by any means some dumb guy cheating other smarter people out of getting into a college.</p>
<p>I don't particularly support cheating, but for the most part, the snitcher is more devoid of "morals" than the cheater. They usually are just jealous and wanting to see someone punished. Granted there are a few who actually are doing it for good reasons, but mostly it's not an issue about stopping "evil".</p>
<p>That's a pretty serious exploit in the system, I would think something should be said to the powers that be, even if it's done in a more anonymous fashion, even if his name was left out of it. In fact, that might be for the best. The administration could at least level the playing field and take measures to prevent it from happening again. </p>
<p>I wouldn't be as concerned with feeling it is your responsibility to make sure he gets what he deserves. As others have said, those things do have a way of coming back around. Sometimes it just takes a while.</p>
<p>I suppose I'm biased because I'm a person who values getting the same results with little work (not that I personally cheat ... unless the opportunity is just too good to pass up ) vs. hard work, but this is not by any means some dumb guy cheating other smarter people out of getting into a college.</p>
<p>Letting an insanely smart person know that he can easily cheat the system without consequences is far worse than letting an idiot do it.</p>
<p>^^
Report about the computer exploits anonymously in a letter. Don't give up his name....if it is traced back to you as the "snitch" people WILL hate you. Frankly, this "cheater" seems smart enough to have gotten in on his own work....so let it pass. I personally don't think "it'll come back to him" because a kid like this who's probably going to go study computers will probably get straight A's and A-'s in college; he has talent. Just move on bro.</p>
<p>Mofmog you're being ridiculous. Or wait, you must be some cancer-curing community hero? Yeah, didn't think so, so stop trying to act like you're a saint. Being a snitch makes everyone's problem worse. If they didn't get anything out of the subjects they cheated on, only time will tell whether they actually make it through college. If they did get something out of the subjects, then they probably could have passed the tests without cheating anyways. So let's say that this kid did get something out of the tests. He probably would have passed anyways; these tests were just formalities. Just leave it alone. The world has a way of balancing itself out. </p>
<p>And I'm always glad to hear of a fellow computer guru. He definitely has talent.</p>
<p>I think this last reply ^^ is pathetic. I think mofmog has it right. It's not necessary to carry on a campaign against one or several cheaters. But I think it's part of the concept of honor to bring known abuses to the attention of authorities. That's for the integrity of the grades of the entire class & those that follow, not just out of one's own self-interest. Further, the password issue is a security risk that is a practical matter, as someone pointed out.</p>
<p>The cheater in question must have been blatant enough, or he wouldn't have been able to sell the tests to others. It's not as if someone's sneaking around spying on him. He's been emboldened by the enablers who won't anonymously report him.</p>
<p>that is so ridiculous... you have no morals if you tell the principal... nobody should ever f*** around with anyones college admissions REGARDLESS if they cheated their way through high school or threatened to bomb the school.. i just DONT play around like that... If the kid who egged my house got into harvard by cheating... i wouldn't tell anyone. A lot of kids cheat, who cares? The stuff we learn in high school is completely useless and he probably will make more than the kids that worked hard and were ranked 50 or below... of course people will bash me for my opinions... but who cares? LOL I barely use CC and I probably wont read ur opinions</p>
<p>mofmog ... your not the godamn policeman of the school... it'll catch up with him u tweak... no morals if you "rat him out" in this case...</p>
<p>"You have no morals if you tell the principal."</p>
<p>Am amazing statement.</p>
<p>It's the moral thing to do to uphold & support cheaters, liars, thieves of passwords at all costs. No question.</p>
<p>"the snitcher is more devoid of "morals" than the cheater"</p>
<p>"Being a snitch makes everyone's problem worse"</p>
<p>Yikes. For more information on messed up values like these, watch The Sopranos tonight on HBO (about a NJ mob family).</p>
<p>Cheaters affect the curve, and the class rank of all students. They steal from kids who did the work, because their effort will mean less in the numbers. They steal from teachers who chose a low-paying career in order to help other people. Teachers who spend a lot of time setting things up and trying to do a good job. Cheaters do hurt other people. Anyone who lets another person take advantage like that might as well be paying off the mob to leave them alone. If you let a cheater get away with it he or she is making a fool of you. People who support cheating think that honest people are stupid enough to fall for their twisted psychology. They really think honest people are their victims, their flunkies. The dumbies who follow the rules and do the work, while they have the fun and cut corners. Don't be anyone's dumbie.</p>
<p>It is really easy to report cheaters and never get found out. Make sure the information you have is real, and do it for the right reason (fairness). Do it anonymously, and then look the cheater in the eye with a poker face (just like the one he used to use).</p>
<p>"I don't particularly support cheating, but for the most part, the snitcher is more devoid of "morals" than the cheater. They usually are just jealous and wanting to see someone punished. Granted there are a few who actually are doing it for good reasons, but mostly it's not an issue about stopping "evil"."</p>
<p>Only in CC will I see such warped statements. Someone needs to check what's more important. So the snitcher may be jealous -- so what? By telling on someone else, they're getting rid of someone who committed something that was morally incorrect. I don't see how the snitcher is worse than the person actually cheating. Geez, get your priorities straight.</p>
<p>It's only on CC that I see people who will do ANYTHING to get ahead, even condone cheating. You people are ridiculous and I'm done with this thread. I just hope that it catches up with you one day, I really do.</p>
<p>Qui Tacet Consentit</p>
<p>He who is silent consents [to the act, to the status quo, etc.]</p>
<p>A shame they don't teach enough Latin in school these days.</p>
<p>Spideygirl; grow up. Just because one doesn't believe in the same values that you hold so nearly and dearly to your heart, that doesn't mean that one's morals are, quoting a poor choice of words, "messed up."</p>
<p>Where I come from, snitching gets you killed. Plain and simple. Getting in other people's business gets you killed. Plain and simple. I'm sorry I don't agree with your customs.</p>
<p>Same goes to you murkywater.</p>