Yale applicant cheated

<p>Someone that I know told my friend that he paid someone to take the ACT with writing for him. He received a perfect score and has been accepted into Yale early action.
That really infuriates me because I have about the same stats as that person except I don't have the perfect ACT score and I probably won't be accepted. Should I do anything?</p>

<p>First find out if this is really true...don't just trust a "he said that she said" rumor. If it is true, then absolutelydo something about it. I just don't know what..</p>

<p>Wow that really bothers me. I guess you can't do much because it's hear say. And the only precaution without full blown investigation is the ID check at the door.</p>

<p>Tough position</p>

<p>Yeah, he was telling my friend how to do it - getting the fake id with the test taker's picture on it. Perhaps Yale admissions could ask to see a handwriting example and check it against the ACT copy. But who knows if ACT would cooperate with Yale admissions.</p>

<p>Your going to need some hard proof and your going to have to do a ton of work</p>

<p>There is nothing you can do. You have no process or mechanism to pursue this matter.
You are wasting time and energy obsessing over it.</p>

<p>This is very different circumstance from plagiarism where the commission of a crime is patently obvious by simple comparison of work to source. Proving cheating when there was a door ID check would be very, very hard. The College Board will want to "defend their system" not help you prove your allegations.</p>

<p>Proving libel or slander in a court of law would be very easy if you are unable to back your allegations. This is not a kindergarten student telling the teacher that Billy copied Sally's paper. This is one near adult considering action that exposes the accused to grevious psychological harm. Do you think you can convince a jury in a court of law that your allegations are true?</p>

<p>People get away with cheating all the time.The reason penalities for those who get caught are so draconian is to discourage it in the first place.</p>

<p>What do you expect to gain? Learn to "pick your battles".</p>

<p>stop being a jealous snitch....if he was accepted, it wasnt only cuz he got a perfect score......tons of perfect ACT's dont ever make it....AND if U dont get accepted, then tough luck...life isnt fair</p>

<p>Let it go. Karma is powerful and relentless.</p>

<p>There is, quite simply, nothing you can do about it, and it's none of your business anyway. They're not going to take away his acceptance letter, cross off his name, and hand it to you. If you're unqualified for admission now, you'll still be unqualified after he gets found out. </p>

<p>The only thing you'll net is one enemy, and I daresay I'd be quite ****ed if someone cost me my Yale acceptance so it's not worth it IMO.</p>

<p>Yep not much you can do. As much as we know it's not ACT/SAT alone... that guy has to go through his ENTIRE life thinking that he really wasn't good enough for Yale. He had to cheat to get in.</p>

<p>He will live his entire life knowing his college acceptance was a fraud. Damn that must suck to explain to have to lie forever....</p>

<p>Yeah, he will probably have to go into politics.</p>

<p>Good thing he's at Yale then.</p>

<p>^^</p>

<p>i lol'd</p>

<p>last 3 posts = awesome</p>

<p>I agree don't do anything.</p>

<p>you know what, this kind of shenanigans happens in society outside of test-taking and all, and unless you take action when something like this happens, you really can't do anything about it. (don't get me wrong though, because I do NOT approve of such action at ALL, and I really think it's unfortunate that people actually do that :( )</p>

<p>You could just accept the fact that sometimes, cheaters aren't caught......but their cheating will catch up to them, because there is only so far incompetent people can coast.</p>

<p>I don't know. The hearsay part troubles me a lot, but if your friend reported what the applicant told him accurately, then this is a serious, serious breach of ethics, and probably a crime. Not a marginal case at all. And really nothing to do with "He got in and I didn't." </p>

<p>Also, not difficult to prove in the least, since a handwriting sample would be plenty -- certainly plenty to get a confession and implication of the person who got paid to take the test, who also needs to be stopped.</p>

<p>I don't think Yale is the right party to field the complaint. It's really an ACT matter -- they were the ones defrauded in the first place, and it's their responsibility to do as much as they can to assure the integrity of their test. I don't think they will circle the wagons at all on a credible allegation of test fraud. I think they will have procedures to investigate it, and the means to do it, and the means to prosecute offenders, and they can invalidate scores and inform the score recipients of their actions. I think they will be very interested in having some sort of public flaying of whoever took the test for pay -- that's the person ACT really wants to get, because he's going to keep doing it -- and in figuring out how to stop it.</p>

<p>How sure are you that this kid cheated? He, or your other friend, or both could well have been b.s.-ing. You know them, I don't. You also know in your heart how much your own jealousy factors in to how you are hearing things. But if you are sure -- and you are prepared to take heat from the kid you are ratting out and your friend who shared his confidence with you -- I think the right thing to do is to write a short, factual, non-anonymous letter to ACT telling what you know.</p>

<p>perfect score, by itself, does not get you in.</p>

<p>JHS is advising you to do something that is not in your best interest. You do not want to get involved in the ***** storm that follows a signed accusation.</p>

<p>Our society SCRE@S whistleblowers!!! There is absolutely no payout for you.</p>