<p>I'm a senior in high school in the US and I want nothing more than to go to King's. I have spent hours studying their site and could probably even pathetically recite most of their information to you, but for overseas students they are not too descriptive exactly as to how your scores and qualifications align with your chances of getting in. I mean sure, they show their minimum requirements for application but that's about it. I would love some insight if anyone has anything to offer! Also, I know the application deadline for this specific university is January 15, 2012 but is there any sort of program in the UK similar to the US' early decision? Thank you!</p>
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<p>There is none. Application to UK unis are centralized through UCAS and decisions come out almost simultaneous. Some unis release results faster than the other, and some students are notified earlier than the rest. The strongest applicants are usually notified the earliest. However, not all unis do that. Only some do, including Durham, Warwick, Bristol, Nottingham and Exeter, to name some. </p>
<p>Why do you like to go to King’s. It’s nowhere near as good as NYU, for instance, IMO. And, it’s not as good as UCL.</p>
<p>Strange that you brought up NYU because really that has been my dream school since my elementary days but unfortunately there is no way that my family could even come close to being able to afford that. I know King’s isn’t as good as UCL, but I’m pretty sure I wouldn’t be able to get in there. King’s appeals to me because they offer the business management degree (which is what I’m applying for), mostly their location and the fact that since they’re a sector of the University of London, that’s what my degree will say. I also looked deeply into the Cass Business School through the City University of London and not only was that program more expensive, but my research said King’s had a much better reputation as well. Thank you for your insight towards applications though and if you have any more advice regarding UK schools I would absolutely love it seeing as I am more or less clueless.</p>
<p>Check out Richmond University in London. Neighbor’s daughter attends and loves it.</p>
<p>[Study</a> at Richmond, The American International University in London](<a href=“http://www.richmond.ac.uk/]Study”>http://www.richmond.ac.uk/)</p>
<p>Thank you and I definitely will! Do you know anything about their reputation? Or maybe if their business department in particular?</p>
<p>I’m not sure how those UK unis will assess your credentials given that you did not take up A-Levels or IB, but I’m sure they do have their way to assess you. </p>
<p>Between King’s and Cass for anything related to management or business or finance, I’d rather go for Cass. It has a better recognition than King’s in the banking and finance industry. </p>
<p>What are your stats like?</p>
<p>Some UK unis that I can recommend to you are:
Exeter
bath
Lancaster
Leicester
Bradford
Birmingham
Aston
Edinburgh, Scotland
Glasgow, Scotland</p>
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<p>They normally accept a combination of relevant AP exams and/or SAT subject tests as equivalent to A-Levels or IB (although I don’t quite agree with that equivalency, especially as far as SAT’s are concerned). </p>
<p>For Business Management in particular, KCL’s [site](<a href=“http://www.kcl.ac.uk/prospectus/undergraduate/entryrequirements/name/business-management/alpha/ABC/header_search/”>http://www.kcl.ac.uk/prospectus/undergraduate/entryrequirements/name/business-management/alpha/ABC/header_search/</a>) says that they require 3 AP subjects with grades 555 ** or ** 3 SAT subject tests with a minimum score of 600 in each of them (which seems to be a much lower requirement than the former !).</p>
<p>Anyway, if the information on the above-linked site is accurate, it shouldn’t be that difficult for a US student to be admitted into KCL. Funding international tuition fees and housing/living costs may be a much bigger problem though.</p>
<p>Richmond University of London: The inside scoop from neighbor’s conversation with her D who is a business major.</p>
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<li>It’s a small school. There is only about 200 or so students in each class. More than 1000 in the school. This has advantages and disadvantages, as the social pool of friends is small but the classes are small, which leads to good discussions and lots of attention from the professors. Since it’s a small school, there are also a limited number of clubs and activities, although I was impressed at how many were offered for the size…</li>
<li>Campus: main campus is in Richmond, a lovely London suburb with a superb Royal park, great stores and restaurants and easy access to central London. The main building is an amazing castle from the 1800s. But since it’s an historic listed building there are lots of restrictions on renovations, so the bathrooms in the dorms etc, are not as top shape as what you might find in US schools. Also, there’s a limited student center and no competitive sports teams, although there are club teams for soccer and tennis. The freshmen and sophomores live in Richmond and attend classes there, the upperclassmen are in the urban campus in Kensington, one of the best areas of London. There they have classrooms, dorms, a cafeteria and art studio. D likes it a lot there, as it’s right in the middle of great happenings in London and has now half her classes there and she commutes from Richmond. She says the art studio and photog studio there are excellent. But the downside of a split campus is that it’s hard to create a sense of community and hard to get to know the upperclassmen.</li>
<li>Academics: good range of courses for a university of its size. International professors from all over the world with different backgrounds and accomplishments. Strong in international relations and business. Offer internship program in senior year and they help with placements in the area of students’ interests. No language dept… cuz students are already fluent in 2-3 languages!</li>
<li>Very international student body. Americans are only about 20 percent. All kids have come from families in which the parents are of different nationalities… they have lived in multiple countries, speak multiple languages and D says she’s learned a lot about the world, especially the Arab region as a lot of kids come from places like Saudi Arabia, Bahrain… Many kids come from a lot of money. Lots went to Swiss boarding schools. From the US, they draw many students from California but she has friends from all over the world.</li>
<li>London: awesome access and lots of professors take advantage of this to take students to art galleries, London financial institutions, etc. Lots of opportunities for internships. And it’s easy to travel to the rest of Europe by cheap airlines or rail. </li>
<li>Cafeteria food is really bad: D’s now living in an off campus apt. and has more control in cooking what she wants.</li>
<li>Overall, D is very happy there and says she would recommend it, however it has to be a right fit. Must understand that it’s small, and must be comfortable with different nationalities and cultures.</li>
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<p>When you say that you know your family can’t afford NYU, I worry about your ability to finance a college education in another country.<br>
Do you understand that you will not get any financial aid at a college in the UK as an American, and that you will have significant travel costs compared to an American college?</p>
<p>The tuition for a classroom-based program at King’s College is about $23,000 (US) and the school estimates annual living expenses for a single student in London at about $17,000 (US). That amount does not include flights back and forth. Tuition and basic living expenses add up to more than $40,000.
You may want to consider attending an American college and doing an exchange program with King’s College instead.</p>
<p>To silicon valley: yes I have done my own calculations and research thank you though. You also forgot to factor in that it’s a three year degree instead of four so even with conversions a kings degree will cost a little under $70,000 while an NYU one would be around $150,000. Living expenses are high in any major city and travel expenses wouldn’t be too bothersome because I don’t intend on flying home more than once a year. Thanks for you input though. </p>
<p>M’s mom: as beautiful as richmond looks and sounds unfortunately it is also too much to handle financially, thank you though.</p>
<p>@mylifeisastrug: I believe siliconvalleymom’s point was that, in any US college, you are expected to get at least some kind of financial aid, which helps even if it doesn’t meet your need. In the UK, you’ll get no financial aid at all as an international student. </p>
<p>Keep in mind that tuition fees in government-funded universities in England are capped by law for domestic students (starting next year at 9,000 pounds/year). Tuition fees for international students on the other hand have no cap, meaning that most English universities see internationals as a source of extra revenue, especially in current times when the new coalition government of PM David Cameron has slashed the teaching budget for undergraduate degrees.</p>
<p>OP, have you heard of the Greenwich School of Management? Here’s the school website: [2</a> year accelerated BSc Bachelor Degree in London. Greenwich School of Management, University College Undergraduate Education. Full time.](<a href=“http://www.greenwich-college.ac.uk/programmes-courses/undergraduate/bsc/bachelor-of-science-bsc-london.asp]2”>http://www.greenwich-college.ac.uk/programmes-courses/undergraduate/bsc/bachelor-of-science-bsc-london.asp)</p>
<p>This might be a good option for those who want to study in London on a tight budget. I wouldn’t say it’s King’s caliber, but it maybe good for ROI plus the chance to study in London, which makes your dream more attainable. You can then pursue MSc in Management at a top UK uni, a program which normally takes one year only at any UK uni.</p>
<p>The $40,000 dollar estimate (US) per academic year for a non-EU student would be at least $120,000 for the three years. According to their website, students should expect increases in tuition in future years.
NYU will be more than $200,000 for the four years to earn an American college degree and there are many threads about their lackluster financial aid packages.
It sounds like you may want to start with a FAFSA calculation so you can begin to accurately compare US and UK costs for your family. If you are eligible for aid in the US, there can be a big difference.</p>