<p>Hey all,
I have a question, maybe a stupid one; What specific schools are best known from Cornell?</p>
<p>Its a subjective question, of course; but which colleges are best known from Cornell? I presume most of the spotlight goes to CAS, CoE and HM, but perhaps someone can tell me otherwise?</p>
<p>The College of Art and Architecture - one of the nation’s best.
Dyson’s school of business in CALS
many, many other programs are high-ranking.</p>
<p>I hope you’re a freshman or sophomore if you’re asking a question like this.</p>
<p>wut, pretty sure CAAP is the number 1 in the world.
CoE is best ivy engineering (which isn’t saying much considering half the ivy league schools aren’t really known for engineering to begin with (ex: Yale/Harvard engineering ***?))
And I think all the state schools are ranked as the best in their field.</p>
<p>I’m asking because of a debate we’re having, mainly concerning the state schools. We recognize CoE and CAS as the greatest, and CALS as far up there (forgot that in my OP). </p>
<p>Its the state schools we’re arguing about; some say I’d be better off applying/enrolling at my local schools (I’m in Boston…so “local” meaning high level, just not Cornell tier). We’ve used my case of someone debating applying as a Bio major to HE; some argue (including counselors) that I’d have a similar if better education at a less prestigious university of sorts, and that the college is not as greatly well known. </p>
<p>That’s why I ask, if there are particularly “lesser known” schools within Cornell, especially on the “state schools” bit.</p>
<p>My personal opinion? Cornell’s up there for a reason. And I’d be happy enough there, complications and “state school” BS be damned. Just want some facts to break heresy here before I apply ED.</p>
<p>People refer to them as the “contract colleges”, not the “state schools” & CALS is one of them. As far as the Contract Colleges being “not as well known”, you would be a graduate of Cornell, few people are going to distinguish which of their colleges you attended.</p>
<p>You are free to take courses all over the university, assuming you satisfy the pre-req for the course. Each major within each college has its own distribution requirements, but many majors offer an amazing amount of latitude. I took courses in five of the seven U/G colleges plus one in Johnson. Drill down on the distribution & core requirements of the program you are considering and you may see that the distinction will matter less than you think.</p>
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I have to question how knowledgeable your counselors are. It is amazing to me that GCs at a Boston school wouldn’t know a major uni which is only few hundred miles away. The fact they are calling contract schools “state schools” is amazing to me, and that they couldn’t advise you the opportunity at Cornell (options to take courses at 7 different schools) would be far superior than many other schools makes me wonder if they are equipped to be GCs. </p>
<p>I would advise to spend more time on CC’s college forums to get better educated what each college has to offer before you make any decisions. Make sure you check out the FA forum too.</p>
<p>This is from award winning high school counselors regarding university academics. If any one of Cornell’s schools is weaker than universities you are debating about, Cornell would not be placed that high. My guess is that your counselors need to learn more.</p>
<p>[High</a> School Counselor Rankings | Rankings | Top National Universities | US News](<a href=“http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities/high-school-counselor]High”>http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities/high-school-counselor)</p>
<p>^ In case you couldn’t open the High School Counselor Rankings page:
(I had problem when I came back here)</p>
<p>Rank----School—Score</p>
<p>1----- Cornell----- 4.9
1----- Harvard---- 4.9
1------MIT----------4.9
1------Princeton—4.9
1------Stanford-----4.9
1------Yale-----------4.9</p>
<p>7------Brown---------4.8
7------Columbia------4.8
7------Dartmouth----4.8
7------J.Hopkins-------4.8
7------Penn-----------4.8</p>
<p>12-----Caltech-------4.7
12-----CarnegieM—4.7
12-----Duke-------4.7
12-----Georgetown-------4.7
12-----UC Berkeley-------4.7
12-----Notre Dame-------4.7
12-----Venderbilt-------4.7</p>
<p>19-----Northwestern----4.6
19-----U.Chicago-------4.6</p>
<p>In high school counselors’ minds it is HYPSMC?</p>
<p>I should say these star counselors are credible and they respect academic reputations, when they say HYPSMC (in no particular order) I take it more seriously than USNWR’s general ranking.</p>
<p>Those who respect academics know it, only the USNWR general ranking that put money in so much weight would rank universities so differently from ranking pure academics. (Alumni giving, Faculty compensation, financial resources add up to be 22 percent overall in USNWR ranking elements) </p>
<p>For international recognition, I would say MHSCYP (slightly in that order).</p>
<p>Also, I posted on Stanford board that Stanford and Cornell are the top two!</p>
<p>"I remember watching a successful Princeton graduate’s speech in Princeton and she emphasized how college campus is the best environment to find your future significant half. I totally agree. So all you who will be admitted to universities, keep that in mind. Don’t just study all day long, go out and have nice activities and meet people!</p>
<p>I am glad that she (my daughter) may not be too weird there if she was so fortunate to be admitted. So far I see Stanford and Cornell be the top two with strongest academics (I trust star high school counselors more) and good size for opportunities to meet people. 
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<p>Did you just answer your own question…
lmao</p>
<p>^ I did! Nothing wrong with it. lol</p>
<p>I saw HYPSM quite often… my question wasn’t meant to ask whether it is HYPSMC or not, I was asking if people realized it is HYPSMC according to counselors. :-)</p>
<p>Now here is the compiled 2014 College Officials’ rankings plus High School Counselors’ rankings. The top 6 are still the same.</p>
<h1>Rank, Peer Assessment score, High School Counselors score, Total, Name</h1>
<p>1— 4.9, 4.9, 9.8 MIT
2— 4.9, 4.9, 9.8 Stanford
3— 4.9, 4.9, 9.8 Harvard
4— 4.8, 4.9, 9.7 Princeton
5— 4.8, 4.9, 9.7 Yale
6— 4.6, 4.9, 9.5 Cornell</p>
<p>7— 4.7, 4.7, 9.4 UC Berkeley
8— 4.6, 4.8, 9.4 Columbia
9— 4.6, 4.8, 9.4 Johns Hopkins
10-- 4.6, 4.7, 9.3 CalTech
11-- 4.6, 4.6, 9.2 UChicago
12-- 4.4, 4.8, 9.2 UPenn
13-- 4.4, 4.8, 9.2 Brown
14-- 4.5, 4.7, 9.2 Duke
15-- 4.4, 4.8, 9.2 Dartmouth
16-- 4.4, 4.6, 9.0 Northwestern</p>
<p>So, yes, it is consistently being HYPSMC on pure academics!</p>
<p>Cornell has a higher admit rate because of it’s larger freshman class size. That is a huge advantage for all applicants IMO!</p>
<p>Take that advantage and apply if you are considering.</p>
<p>So, it is intense for RD applications now. I hope all prospective students on CC read this thread. </p>
<p>Once you are admitted, you should be proud of your accomplishments and know you are luky that you are admitted among many qualified candidates to this highly respected university! (You should be proud of your accomplishments no matter you are admitted or not because all applicants are high achievers, but I am emphancizing on the ‘and’.)</p>
<p>Goodness, another format messed up post of mine due to CC computer system upgrade. For the High School Counselor Rankings, it is better to go to the link or use the following chart instead of the messed up long list in my post:</p>
<p>Rank-School- - -Score</p>
<p>1 Cornell - - - 4.9
1 Harvard - - - 4.9
1 MIT - - - - - 4.9
1 Princeton - - 4.9
1 Stanford - - -4.9
1 Yale - - - - -4.9</p>
<p>7 Brown - - - - 4.8
7 Columbia - - -4.8
7 Dartmouth- - -4.8
7 J.Hopkins - - 4.8
7 Penn - - - - -4.8</p>
<p>12 Caltech - - -4.7
12 CarnegieM - -4.7
12 Duke - - - - 4.7
12 Georgetown - 4.7
12 UC Berkeley -4.7
12 Notre Dame - 4.7
12 Venderbilt - 4.7</p>
<p>19 Northwestern 4.6
19 U.Chicago - -4.6 </p>
<p>The fact that Caltech is not number 1 on all of these lists shows somethings up. </p>
<p>Well, Caltech is a fantastic school as well but the vast majority of rankings didn’t have it as number one, must be some reasons. </p>