<p>What is it about you guys and Apples?</p>
<p>It seems like you're all being the pretentious apple ipod eurotrash indie snobs that I didn't want my classmates to be.</p>
<p>People buy apples when they care about style/appearance over performance/functionality, it seems, and that is pretentious. You could get a much better computer for the same price if you didn't go with ibooks or powerbooks. Same goes with ipods.</p>
<p>Pet peeve, sorry.</p>
<p>Going with a Mac is far more than going for style/appearance... it's going for an integrated solution that just works.</p>
<p>I want my applications to work together. I want my OS to run on industry standards so it will work with anything. I want to be able to find anything on my computer in a snap. Create dynamic folders. Use Expos</p>
<p>Ok, but most students don't know anything about differences between OS's (if you really wanted a the best OS, you'd go with Linux).</p>
<p>The average snobby incompetent prefrosh goes for the ibooks based on style. The average snobby incompetent prefrosh will also never use Expose or dynamic folders--he just wants email, internet, games, and AIM.</p>
<p>Well, it's not just the OS. From a pure OS standpoint, Linux is great; however, it isn't a complete solution.</p>
<p>The great part about Mac OS X is that it has its roots in FreeBSD, a UNIX varient. Thus, any Linux apps you'd want to run usually just require a recompile and you're set!</p>
<p>Apple designs the hardware, software, and operating system to work together. It's seemless to use.</p>
<p>I absolutely love expose. I go crazy on computers without it because I keep moving my mouse into the upper corner, hoping to clear all the clutter!</p>
<p>The average snobby incompetent prefrosh makes irrational, judgmental generalizations. The average snobby incompetent prefrosh attacks his classmates for failing to match his own, superior disaffectedness. The average snobby incompetent prefrosh needs to deal with himself before trying to out-snark the world. </p>
<p>And yes, I do realize the hypocrisy of what I'm saying. But it needed to be said.</p>
<p>is customzing a comp on ibuypower.com a good deal, or is it a scam that will break in 2 months???</p>
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<p>Which is, in my opinion, very counter-intuitive. Regardless, mac is working around the clock to port OSX to run on Wintel boxes if you really want it.</p>
<p>Steve jobs admitted less than a week ago that current mac laptops are "very underpowered". Rebuttal? I didn't think so.</p>
<p>The g5 chip (and the whole chipset that pete has been harolding) was completely scrapped last week- there will never be a g5 laptop and the g5 desktops are going to be obsolete very soon. What are they being abondoned in favor of you ask? The very same intel chips that have been in wintel boxes for years! Why would you buy a G chip now when apple just announced that they will be halting their production asap (meaning that when existing G chip machines run [the already very, very limited supply of] software native to mac - it will be incompatable or very slow on their computer because it had to be ported over to their chipset obsolete chipset).</p>
<p>Check and mate.</p>
<p>If you didn't follow what I said, it basically means:</p>
<p>It would be completely stupid to buy a mac at this point in time. Before this announcement it was debatable, but now there's no if ands or buts about it.</p>
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The g5 chip (and the whole chipset that pete has been harolding) was completely scrapped last week- there will never be a g5 laptop and the g5 desktops are going to be obsolete very soon. What are they being abondoned in favor of you ask? The very same intel chips that have been in wintel boxes for years! Why would you buy a G chip now when apple just announced that they will be halting their production asap (meaning that when existing G chip machines run [the already very, very limited supply of] software native to mac - it will be incompatable or very slow on their computer because it had to be ported over to their chipset obsolete chipset).
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<p>I don't think you're exactly up-to-date.</p>
<p>Apple will continue shipping boxes using the G4 and G5 well in to 2007; in fact, there are still products using both of these chips in the pipeline, yet to be released.</p>
<p>There is no reason to hold off on purchasing a new Mac -- all new applications are going to run on both PPC and Intel architecture. Developers can release applications with "universal binaries" meaning that they can run on Intel or PowerPC.</p>
<p>The fact that you are referring to the PowerPC as the "G" chip shows how uninformed you are! The chips are far from being obsolete -- in fact, Microsoft, Sony, and Nintendo are all planning to use PowerPC varients in their future game boxes. The problem with the PowerPC lies in its power consumption. It isn't made to run well in laptops and small, sleek designs, which is where Apple is heading.</p>
<p>Where did you see Steve Jobs call Apple's notebook line "very underpowered?" I'm curious to know.</p>
<p>K1ngMe- "is customzing a comp on ibuypower.com a good deal, or is it a scam that will break in 2 months???"</p>
<p><a href="http://www.resellerratings.com%5B/url%5D">www.resellerratings.com</a></p>
<p>If you're into customizing- check out these places instead:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.discountlaptops.com%5B/url%5D">www.discountlaptops.com</a>
<a href="http://www.pctorque.com%5B/url%5D">www.pctorque.com</a>
<a href="http://www.rjtech.com%5B/url%5D">www.rjtech.com</a>
<a href="http://www.powernotebooks.com%5B/url%5D">www.powernotebooks.com</a>
<a href="http://www.proportable.com%5B/url%5D">www.proportable.com</a></p>
<p>Hey guys, I won't pretend to know anything about computers, but I have been looking at the thinkpad. Is the R41 model that folds up and is essentially an electronic legal pad, I think, worth all the cash? Also, I notice with most, if not all of the thinkpads, come with only 40gb. I do a lot of video editing and music downloads, should I get something that is 80gb? Thanks in advance for any help.</p>
<p>alright, so for someone who knows next to nothing about computers and just wants something that can handle email, im and writing papers, and is CHEAP, what do u guys reccomend? please dont get into the technical babble- i wont have any idea what ur talking about. ps- id prefer a pc (no offense pete) thanks :)</p>
<p>jellibelli.. ANY new computer you buy will be able to handle those simple tasks. Find the best (aka cheapest) deal you can get if you just need the basics. You will still have to decide between laptop and desktop though.</p>
<p>yeah, i was hopin someone could point me to the cheapest option (for a laptop, by the way)</p>
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<p>Through emulation software - in laymans terms: non-hardware intensive applications become hardware intensive and hardware intensive programs (or programs that directly accesses the chip) don't run at all.</p>
<p>Medion Akoya LS laptop at Best Buy. under 1000 bucks, small, portable, very good parts for the price. Don't be fooled by the no name brand, the laptop itself is manufactured by the same company that distributes to, well I don't know off the top of my head, but to the popular brands like Toshiba, HP, Compaq, Dell, maybe some Sony's (just like how the Apple Powerbook is manufactured by the company that makes some of the IBM thinkpads and higher end Sony's).</p>
<p>i have an internship over the summer and the computer that i use runs on MacOSX and for someone thats used to a PC like me there are many problems and things that are inconvenient with the mac compared to windows.. first of all, merely clicking on the "X" on mac wont exit out ur program, all it does is minimize it to the bar at the bottom, then you have to reopen it and do a file quit to actually exit.. it gets pretty annoying if you're just used to X'ing out of programs in windows. another thing is that damned taskbar at the bottom it uses up like the bottom 2 inches of your monitor, either the windows wont go below it and they stay shrunk or if ur windows do go below it its not very transparent and still useless/hard to see. lastly, the latest AIM for mac has a terrible interface compared to the windows version and iChat is even worse, it talks in blurbs rather than texts which is the most useless thing that takes up the whole IM screen in 2 sentences... after my experience with the OS and the price of the computer and the specs you get with it, i can firmly conclude for myself that macs suck.</p>
<p>thanks invisiblehand! anyone else out there have ideas?</p>
<p>My animation teacher was telling me about the Toshiba Satellite laptops being really awesome, especially for the price. You're not going to need all of the fancy system power that I'm looking at, but either way they offer good computers. The prices seem to be really decent. This one:</p>
<p>is what I thought you might be interested in. 1.3 GHz processor, 256 MB RAM, 40 GB hard drive, DVD/CD-RW drive, 15" display. Right now it's $699. They have a lot of other cool options on laptops, too, like the tablet that you can write on like a notepad with a pen. Just thought you might want to check it out.</p>
<p>For all I care, anyone can get whatever kind of computer they want, but, to set the record straight, all of the problems (except for the x-ing out of applications thing) that jskbond007 listed with OS X are preferences, easily changable. The dock (the menu/task bar) can be made very small and it moves around easily. As far as the ichat speech bubbles go, I think those are annoying too... but there is a command in the menu bar to switch to plain text. And for my part, I think command-Qing my applications away is just as easy as x-ing, with less possibility of closing something by mistake.</p>