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<p>I have a question on behalf of my cousin, who is currently at Princeton. He was admitted into the Woodrow Wilson School and has started preparing for sample LSAT's (he got a 1580 on the SAT, if that means anything). On the LSAT's, he has been getting mid 170s...he tells me, though, that he could have done better had he started studying earlier. (My brother also has a 3.83 GPA with primarily economics courses)</p>

<p>Two questions. First, what are my brother's chances to get into top three law schools (HYS)? He has three strong EC's (in which he took leadership positions).</p>

<p>Also, when should I start preparing for the LSAT's? I'm interested in politics, but I'm signed up as an ECO major since I think that will give me more options if I decide not to go to law school and will help me w/more rigorous thinking.</p>

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<p>So, are you asking on behalf of your COUSIN, your BROTHER, or YOURSELF?</p>

<p>=)</p>

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<p>Whoever your asking for they have a strong chance (70-80%) into HYS. Any other top 14 school are a guaranteed lock.</p>

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<p>No one is ever guaranteed a spot at a top law school, regardless of their GPA and LSAT score. A good chance? Maybe. A lock? Absolutely never.</p>

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<p>Don't they have a general calculator just to estimate these things?</p>

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<p>start here:</p>

<p>at Yale 439 people applied with GPAs of 3.75+ and 182 were admitted 41.5%</p>

<p><a href="http://www.law.yale.edu/admissions/2340.htm%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.law.yale.edu/admissions/2340.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>you should also try the LSAC Data search (LSAT & GPA) @</p>

<p><a href="http://officialguide.lsac.org/docs/cgi-bin/home.asp%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://officialguide.lsac.org/docs/cgi-bin/home.asp&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>or you can try </p>

<p><a href="http://www.lawschoolnumbers.com%5B/url%5D"&gt;www.lawschoolnumbers.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>these are self reported</p>

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<p>just to clarify -- that 41% stat that sybbie cited for yls- is for those with over a 3.75 AND a 175-180 on their LSAT (also the number of applicants referenced is over a 3 year period)</p>

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<p>you can try this one too, won't calulate chances but will tell you schools in the range</p>

<p><a href="http://www.bc.edu/offices/careers/gradschool/law/lawlocator/#explanation%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.bc.edu/offices/careers/gradschool/law/lawlocator/#explanation&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

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<p>Wow, embarassing post on my part. I meant my cousin, but since he frequents these boards, I put in brother. </p>

<p>BTW the 41% for YLS, that is w/3.75 and 175-180, but does that include 3.75s from state colleges? And I know everyone says this, but do the adcoms REALLY see no difference between an Economics AB and an English AB, etc? Or a degree from Princeton v. a degree from, say, Miami-Ohio (which isn't a bad school).</p>

<p>PS I want to really get a 177+ on the LSATs (I got a 1600 on the SAT, so I HOPE I can pull this off). When should I start studying, and with what resources? Which books are for beginners, and which books are comprehensive and good to learn (ie comparable to SAT Barrons book...very rigorous)</p>

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<p>PS when I say state colleges, I didn't mean to sound condescending...I know U Mich and U Tex. and UCs and UVA are fantastic, but I just meant generally, like U Nebraska v. HYP</p>

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<p>i went to YLS AND undergrad to State U - you know what -- there were plenty of us there in my class. i went quite a number of years ago, but yls prided itself on not having a cookie cutter student body -- sure there were plenty of hyp grads -- they had loads of those to choose from. but there were plenty of us who had been top students at our State U's who were there too - also some undergrad schools you'd probably never even heard of.</p>

<p>i am assuming the gpa breakdowns from that yls link includes people from all types of colleges, state, private, as well as those who graduated a few or many years prior. and there were plenty of the latter in my yls class as well. the backgrounds of the students in my class covered an incredibly broad range with many post-undergrad experiences.</p>

<p>i have to be honest -- it gets a little annoying sometimes reading this board and seeing everyone focus on hys law schools -- the reality is that most prospective law students aren't going to go to one of those three -- and i don't really think you can predict who will or won't get that opportunity since you just can't appreciate the breadth of the backgrounds of the applicants they get.</p>