<p>my little brother is starting to fill out apps and he was curious, especially for columbia, would it be better to leave the box blank than put Caucasian? or do they just automatically assume?</p>
<p>What's your name?</p>
<p>If you don't fill in the box, they'll assume you're not a URM. Unless your not checking the box is your little silent protest against discrimination and affirmative action, it really doesn't matter whether you check white or don't fill it out.</p>
<p>But if you are Chinese and dont fill the box, then wont that give you a better chance of acceptance?</p>
<p>Depends on whether you have an ethnic name. You might also have to leave off EC's like Chinese school to conceal your ethnicity, and I don't think that is a very good idea.</p>
<p>LMAO assuming that all chinese folks attend 'kumon' as part of their ECs?</p>
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But if you are Chinese and dont fill the box, then wont that give you a better chance of acceptance?
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<p>No, you're either a URM or not. Please stop perpetuating this myth that Asians are some how discriminated against any more than any other non URM race is.</p>
<p>its not a myth, its just more exaggerated than it might actually be.</p>
<p>i'd assume something in your app will give you away, your college counselor's report, your lst name for instance i mean, your nationality you have to put down, i dunno. i don't think race is that much of an issue... having said that i'd suggest you do put down your nationality. it reflects poorly on you, i feel. it will not be the basis of your rejection (or acceptance).</p>
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its not a myth, its just more exaggerated than it might actually be.
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<p>Why don't you define what "it might actually be"? You can't. It's a myth. Columbia doesn't hold Asians to any higher standards than any other non URM race. Get that out of your head.</p>
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your nationality you have to put down, i dunno. i don't think race is that much of an issue... having said that i'd suggest you do put down your nationality. it reflects poorly on you, i feel. it will not be the basis of your rejection (or acceptance).
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<p>I have absolutely no friggin' clue what this says or what this means.</p>
<p>This reminds me of this one incident at CU when ppl sold cookies according to your ethnicity. Apparently, black females had to pay the lowest prizes and Asian male had to pay the most, lol</p>
<p>Nationality: What country you are from. The legal stuff
Ethnicity: Your cultural tradition, usually race.</p>
<p>It's pretty much mandatory to put down your nationality, because they've gotta know if you're an international but ethnicity is the optional one. </p>
<p>Pear:
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2o_eJ7p96mA&mode=related&search=%5B/url%5D">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2o_eJ7p96mA&mode=related&search=</a></p>
<p>:P</p>
<p>...the office is so spectacular</p>
<p>pearfire, what you are referring to is the "affirmative action bake sale" that was put on by the Columbia College Republicans</p>
<p>How did all the students respond and what did the faculty say about this whole thing? And how come it's always the Republicans who cause the initial trouble?</p>
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Nationality: What country you are from. The legal stuff
Ethnicity: Your cultural tradition, usually race.</p>
<p>It's pretty much mandatory to put down your nationality, because they've gotta know if you're an international but ethnicity is the optional one.
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<p>I know the difference between citizenship/nationality and ethnicity/race/etc. The point attempting to be made in #8 is simply incoherent and contradictory.</p>
<p>Oh that wasn't directed towards you 02. It was so clarify things for Bobby.</p>
<p>put your ethnicity down. Adcoms want to increase diversity and if you leave that spot on your app blank, they will automatically assume the worst and you will be at a disadvantage. Besides, being Asian doesnt hurt your chances as nearly as you think it does. I know many Asian kids who got into ivies + more.</p>
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I know many Asian kids who got into ivies + more.
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<p>WHAT?????!!!! asians getting into ivies?! no f'n way!</p>
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if you leave that spot on your app blank, they will automatically assume the worst
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<p>Yeah, if you leave it blank they'll assume you're a terrorist.</p>
<p>Think about what you write. If they assume you're white / asian, it's no different than checking the box that you're white / asian.</p>
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No, you're either a URM or not. Please stop perpetuating this myth that Asians are some how discriminated against any more than any other non URM race is.
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All Ivys, especially Harvard cares about diversity, which is why they tend to have certain racial quotas to ensure the exact percentage of certain races. Otherwise, how come Berkeley, a non-Affirmative Action school has a 41% Asian population and a 3.7% Black population while Harvard has a 19% Asian population and a 10% Black population?
Furthermore, if you claim that non-URMs are not discriminated against, then the white and asians populations should be at least equal. However, this is not the case. Berkeley has a 30.5%white population while Harvard has a 60% white population.</p>
<p>The logic in #19 is absolutely atrocious.</p>
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All Ivys, especially Harvard cares about diversity, which is why they tend to have certain racial quotas to ensure the exact percentage of certain races.
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<p>They don't have racial quotas. They don't ensure exact percentages of certain races. You just made that up.</p>
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Otherwise, how come Berkeley, a non-Affirmative Action school has a 41% Asian population and a 3.7% Black population while Harvard has a 19% Asian population and a 10% Black population?
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<p>How does this fact support the assertion made in the previous sentence, namely that Harvard has exact racial percentage quotas?</p>
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Furthermore, if you claim that non-URMs are not discriminated against,
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<p>Try rereading the sentences you quotes. Note the difference between "Asians are not discriminated against" and "Asians are not discriminated against any more than any other non URM race."</p>
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if you claim that non-URMs are not discriminated against, then the white and asians populations should be at least equal.
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<p>No, they shouldn't. The white and asian populations should reflect the applicant pool and the quality of applicants.</p>
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However, this is not the case. Berkeley has a 30.5%white population while Harvard has a 60% white population.
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<p>Because 1) Berkeley admissions uses a formula that is numbers-driven and Harvard looks for much more than the numbers, and 2) Berkeley's applicant pool has a totally different racial composition than the Harvard applicant pool.</p>