legalizing weed/ganja/maryjane/whatever you call it

<p>so ive always been up for legalization because it helps medically/psycologically and prevents a black market.</p>

<p>if the govt required taxes on sales then theyd be making $ off the street dealers and corporations that start production. street dealers would be making less money, but the govt would have more boosting revenue. also buyers wouldnt have to pay as much for it because there would be greater supply. </p>

<p>economically, why is the US/people opposed to legalizing marijuana??</p>

<p>Because you can grow weed in your backyard and capitalism dies as a result.</p>

<p>Because Jesus Christ is my antidrug.</p>

<p>Because it can't be used as a suppository.</p>

<p>Let me get this straight: you want weed legalized because it prevents a black market? It's true that sales of the drug will then be accounted for in GDP, but if anything, you're calling for the promotion of the drug. With decreased substantial risks and barriers to the market involved, the price of weed will plummet, thus making it more accessible for people of all ages.</p>

<p>But apparently drug use hasn't increased in countries where it has been legalized or decriminalized for small possession.</p>

<p>I personally don't understand why the government would want to limit drugs besides the crime factor, which would probably go down given all the drug trafficking-related crimes that happen. I am of the opinion that if you want to enjoy life or screw it up, that's for you, not the government, to decide.
The US is only against it because of its Puritanical morals. The economic aspects-if the FDA were to regulate it-would mean a lot of extra money for the country, probably similar to that made by alcohol.</p>

<p>"But apparently drug use hasn't increased in countries where it has been legalized or decriminalized for small possession."</p>

<p>That's a good point.</p>

<p>People who are going to smoke pot are going to smoke pot whether it's legal or not. People who aren't going to use pot aren't going to suddenly use pot just because it is legal. It's perfectly legal to do a lot of things, but that doesn't mean people always do it. </p>

<p>For anyone who has smoked pot you know that it's much safer/better than getting drunk, and drinking till you puke is legal. So are cigarettes, but that doesn't mean I'm going to go and start chain smoking.</p>

<p>Yay for legalization of pot.</p>

<p>Another yay hear. Let's get a nayer in here so we can whoop his ass ;)</p>

<p>Nay, whoop my ass and I'll break yo face in a million pieces. Just try, sucker. I <3 how America is going downhill with ideas from the "best" teenagers on here.</p>

<p>Let's legalize child molesting while we're on the topic, promotes maturity right?
Idiots.</p>

<p>Umm child molesting hurts people--hurts children. How does smoking pot hurt anyone more than drinking alcohol or smoking cigarettes? If anything it hurts people less than drinking because people VERY rarely become violent when high on pot.</p>

<p>I never said I supported drinking alcohol or smoking cigarettes. I live in a drug-free world. Actually, child molesting, note the emphasis on child, doesn't produce unwanted kids who grow up to be miserable and promote more "violence" or live in a retarded foster care where no one gives a damn about them. </p>

<p>First comes love, then comes marriage, then comes abortion or painful miscarriage!!</p>

<p>And that's how it usually is, plus kids who are child molested may be troubled at first, but grow up to be very mature, because they're different than other kids surrounded by a guarded environment till they're 18 or so. They know the real world as youngsters, and can grow up to actually be productive citizens, instead of sitting on a college discussion wishing marijuana would be legal. Which is the most ironic sentence I've typed since coming on here. Wow. I thought you guys were like, smart. wt.f am i even doing arguing this, legalization of marijuana? holy lord.</p>

<p>The only reason tobacco is legal right now is because it has been a cash crop since the plantation system has been aorund.</p>

<p>Marijuana, at least according to clinical studies, really isn't all too different from tobacco, other than the fact that tobacco is a stimulant and marijuana is a depressant. </p>

<p>If and when maryjane is legalized, it will be solely for economic reasons. Although, it seems to me like politicians are too involved in their anti-drug wars to ever turn it over any time soon.</p>

<p>Sorry, potheads, you're still gonna have to toke up in your basement and buy your grass from your buddy Wizzle-Dizzle on the corner.</p>

<p>marijuana was not made illegal for economic reasons. marijuana is not kept illegal for economic reasons. marijuana won't be made legal for economic reasons. this is all ludicrous. </p>

<p>capitalism does not die as a result of growing marijuana in your backyard. you can grow oranges in your backyard and sell them if you want to. if that's not capitalism, i don't know what is.</p>

<p>legalizing marijuana will help the economy and end stupid jail time to those who use it. I am 17 and have never used it and probably never will use it or even smoke tobacco. The thing is there is so much effort put into keeping it illegal that it is not worth it. Obviously perception is distorted with the use of marijuana. The main problem is that you can’t just test for drug use like you can for alcohol. It isn’t like you can take a breathalyzer when you are pulled over. A blood sample must be taken and I don’t think you can take the blood of those you pull over, you must take them into the station. obviously you can take a urine sample but that isn't an instant answer. If one of you could find a way to see if someone is high and prove it quickly you will be rich…</p>

<p>Positives: Less Crime, less money spent in stopping its use, MORE money brought in by taxes. Maybe some of the debt that the current administration has put us in might be erased.</p>

<p>For people that know how to produce marijuana and need money the selling of it isn't a bad idea. They can make a half a gram for about 1.75 and sell it for 7. Making it legal however will lower the price in a free market. This is good for consumers(maybe to help pay off the medical problems they will have later)</p>

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Let me get this straight: you want weed legalized because it prevents a black market? It's true that sales of the drug will then be accounted for in GDP, but if anything, you're calling for the promotion of the drug. With decreased substantial risks and barriers to the market involved, the price of weed will plummet, thus making it more accessible for people of all ages.

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<p>first of all, it's far easier for me, as a minor, to get weed than it is to get alcohol. </p>

<p>second of all, the main problems with drug-related crime are not those commited by people amped on meth or whatever, they're related to drug deals gone wrong, and the insane amount of money to be had in black-market deling. by keeping drugs illegal, the government is giving cartels jobs. </p>

<p>third of all, weed is not an evil substance that will turn you into a demented, raping, stealing feind like in Reefer Madness when DARE tells you it is, that's a bald-faced lie. weed being accesable isn't a bad thing. alcohol, which has a much greater negative effect on behavior, is more addictive, and carries a risk of overdose, is legal, but "suprisingly" **** still gets done.

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I never said I supported drinking alcohol or smoking cigarettes. I live in a drug-free world. Actually, child molesting, note the emphasis on child, doesn't produce unwanted kids who grow up to be miserable and promote more "violence" or live in a retarded foster care where no one gives a damn about them.</p>

<p>First comes love, then comes marriage, then comes abortion or painful miscarriage!!</p>

<p>And that's how it usually is, plus kids who are child molested may be troubled at first, but grow up to be very mature, because they're different than other kids surrounded by a guarded environment till they're 18 or so. They know the real world as youngsters, and can grow up to actually be productive citizens, instead of sitting on a college discussion wishing marijuana would be legal. Which is the most ironic sentence I've typed since coming on here. Wow. I thought you guys were like, smart. wt.f am i even doing arguing this, legalization of marijuana? holy lord.

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<p>your assumptions about the effects of weed are simply ridiculous. so you think that one use of drugs will turn somebody into a total mindless wreck, and that drugs are worse than child molestation?
there are millions of people, the vast majority, that use drugs safely and responsably, and that grow up to be perfectly reasonable human beings. the line between weed and alcohol is only the (completely arbitrary) legal one, it isn't more dangerous. fact.
you're in this discussion to! obviously it isn't caused by drug use. you say that it is and by doing so, prove that it isn't.</p>

<p>it comes down to this. there is no good reason for marijuana to be illegal. the laws began because of racism and puritanism. the laws stay because people assume they must be in place for legitimate reasons, and that there must be sopme profound difference between legal and illegal substances. this is supported by drug disinformation programs such as D.A.R.E. which show videos of people going crazy after a puff of pot, going far beyond accurate protrayals of those dangerous effects which do exist. they center on the FALSE idea of a "gateway drug" which has never been so much as supported by a scientific study, was invented by a politcian with no experiance in the field of medicine or drug control, and is considered untrue by virtually all who have studied it. this is something the makers of these problems know to be false but tell us anyway. propaganda. </p>

<p>i sound like a conspiracy therorist, but i'm not therorizing anything, if you read that paragraph. i'm stating a set of seperate facts. a conspiracy therorist would saay its driven by the paper companies because hemp makes better paper. of course that's absurd. it's simply an unfortuante set of circumstances, where too much apathy towards legitimate understanding of the circumstances exsits to right it.</p>

<p>let me rehash- no good reason to outlaw it.</p>

<p>if there's no legitimate intrest in outlawing, it should be legal; basic constitutional law, and common sense.</p>

<p>there are reasons that it would be good to legalize: taxation is one, reduction of drug-related crime is another. </p>

<p>so stop the culture war and legalize.</p>

<p>All for legalization because:
1)In a free society, adults should be free to choose to do drugs..its their call if it harms them or not
2)Anti drug laws create a black market, allowing violence and crime to propagate
3)In Netherland, there isn't much drug violence and they have a lesser problem with junkies
4)Fighting drugs only gives govt more power and ****es on the constitution</p>

<p>Wow Gleech. The reason I supported such an obviously flawed child molestation argument was to show how ludicrous this marijuana argument is. Did I mention once that smoking marijuana would cause more child molestation? There is something called morals that the US kind of would like to hold on to, at least what's left of it. Now you're saying programs such as D.A.R.E are propoganda bs? Wt.f are you smoking? Not everyone supports turning our youth into potheads.</p>

<p>Regulating morals is no job for the government. Appealing to emotion is quite common in lack of an actual argument.</p>