Let's be tolerant to all religions but...scientology?

<p>Just put on a mask/bandanna, or show up looking for a guy handing out Guy Fawkes masks. The only work you would do is to familiarize yourself with internets and 4chan culture. You'll have a great time.</p>

<p>I know, but between CC, internet gambling, work, school, and internet gambling, there arent enough hours in the day to protest, and i dont like protesters, even if it is against scientology.</p>

<p>I'm fairly tolerant of every religion except scientology. Scientology is the stupidest, most illogical crap I've ever heard and anyone who believes in it is a f-ing idiot.</p>

<p>I also hate extreme atheists who say that Christianity, Islam, or any other religion is no less bizarre or outrageous than Scientology.</p>

<p>I'm pretty sure that the Son of God, Prophet of Allah, the Enlightened One, etc. is a more respectable label than bad science fiction author for a founder of a religion.</p>

<p>Because Scientology isn't a real religion - it's like believing that the world will end in 2012. There are only a few 'reasonable' religions in this world, and the rest are looked at as simply being the product of either people with too much time on their hands or just loonies who need to be locked up.</p>

<p>Scientology fits that load of bull-crap, and if you believe it you need to have your brain examined in the hope that you still retain some level of sanity. Sorry to say it so bluntly, but it's an insane religion. However, some things it teaches about controlling your inner self can be used, but you could just get them from a self-help book too.</p>

<p>^ whoa whoa whoa, 2012 is not a load of BS, and claiming it to be wihin the realm of scientology is crazy, jk</p>

<p>but not really, im actually kind of nervous.</p>

<p>Religions I find reasonable (fundamentalists/extremists and break-off sects not included):</p>

<p>Every damn major religion in the world that are a significant part of certain cultures.</p>

<p>Scientology claims to be a major religion that has 15 million members... BULL ****!</p>

<p>I'm still tolerant of Scientology. I really don't care if anyone's a scientologist or not, really.</p>

<p>There is no evidence that Scientology is less truthful than any other religion. It's all based on belief and faith, and I get fed up with all this 'my imaginary friend is better than yours' guff.</p>

<p>^ Amen. </p>

<p>10 char</p>

<p>I don't think it's the belief in Scientology that I care about, it's the abusive and destructive power of the Church of Scientology. I don't give a rat's ass about freezone Scientologists.</p>

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<p>I hate to tell you so bluntly, but you are clearly insulting your intelligence. I know many Atheists and many believers, and let me tell you, there are idiots in the extremes of both: either fundamentalist, blind believers or extreme, I-am-so-smarter-than-these-believers atheists.</p>

<p>I mean, like Liist mentioned, you can't "group" Scientology with Christianity/Islam/Judaism or other movements that make sense.</p>

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<p>Right on.</p>

<p>Claims of authorship have no effect on the validity of a proposition; if Ron Hubbard called himself god, would that somehow elevate Scientology in your eyes? What if I call myself God? How dare you question my authority? Certainly, it is no less potent than Ron Hubbard's, Mathews, Gautama's, Luke's or Muhammad's.</p>

<p>Appeal</a> to authority - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia</p>

<p>Like I said before, the various memeplexes are indistinguishable on their baser levels. All flow from the same source (inspiration!); there is no way to distinguish between their individual veracities if all fulfill the standards of the same epistemology (which itself coincidentally invalidates that epistemology if we are to accept the principle of identity).</p>

<p>Why can't they be grouped together? A glitch in the board system seems to have deleted your justification for asserting that the latter three systems are any more "coherent" than the former...</p>

<p>Regarding scientology's religiosity:</p>

<p>re·li·gion (rĭ-lĭj'ən) pronunciation
n.</p>

<p>1.
1. Belief in and reverence for a supernatural power or powers regarded as creator and governor of the universe.
2. A personal or institutionalized system grounded in such belief and worship.
2. The life or condition of a person in a religious order.
3. A set of beliefs, values, and practices based on the teachings of a spiritual leader.
4. A cause, principle, or activity pursued with zeal or conscientious devotion.</p>

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<p>Scientology fits every one of the above criterion in most of its iterations, so it already is a religion; stating that "scientology is a religion" is tautological.</p>

<p>On that note, pastafarianism, frisbeeterianism, and their ilk are also religions, so long as belief in them is "genuine" given the aforementioned definition.</p>

<p>^ so contrary to popular belief, scientology SHOULD be a religion..</p>

<p>what arguments can be made against that? that Hubbard's intention to create the religion wasn't the same intention Muhammad, Jesus, Gautama, and others had? and that he did it for financial gain?</p>

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that Hubbard's intention to create the religion wasn't the same intention Muhammad, Jesus, Gautama, and others had?

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<p>Were you there? Most likely not. Therefore, you can't say for sure that that wasn't their intention.</p>

<p>I put this on another thread.</p>

<p>I consider freezone Scientology to be a religion, but the organization known as the Church of Scientology puts a price on your faith and will charge you humongous amounts of money for further religious learning.</p>

<p>If you become a freezone Scientologist, the Church of Scientology will make your life miserable.</p>

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Were you there? Most likely not. Therefore, you can't say for sure that that wasn't their intention.

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...I hope you aren't serious.</p>

<p>MLK wasn't fighting for civil rights, no, his intentions were to secretly promote the penguins as superior to humans. Of course Locke wanted to spread the lovely idea of using pigs as a way towards spiritual nirvana.</p>

<p>You weren't there, were you? </p>

<p>...</p>

<p>^ ouch ><</p>

<p>but wasn't it mentioned earlier in this thread that Hubbard said that to make millions, create your own religion?</p>

<p>doesn't that hint something?</p>

<p>I seriously doubt that Jesus got 1 million dollars every week, a whole fleet of ships, and a bunch of girls to tend to him everyday. He was nailed to a plank of wood.</p>

<p>L. Ron Hubbard was rich as **** when he died.</p>

<p>^^ I've heard that many times, but I don't know for a fact. </p>

<p>^^^ MLK we have actual video footage of. I'm not going to comment on that because I'm not going to start a civil-rights debate too. </p>

<p>And nobody claims that about Locke either way... so not relevant? </p>

<p>And I didn't say that that WAS their intention. I am merely saying that you don't know. The early Christians were ostracized by the "established" Jewish religion. They were considered a "cult". Now they are an established religion and nobody would think of calling them a fringe-religion or something of the like.</p>