Let's compare high school profiles

<p>I'm interested to know how different high school profiles compare to each other. Anyone interested in sharing a few things? I will start. (I realize that the same info won't be on everyone's profile, but to the extent you have some of the same info, please share if you are inclined!) I just really don't know how our high school compares and there are all kinds of people throwing around things about grade inflation/deflation, etc. so I'm hoping this helps me understand what other profiles look like - especially average GPAs out there and how they are listed.</p>

<p>For 2014 -</p>

<p>Number of students: 240
6th semester mean average weighted GPA: 3.32
(No unweighted average GPA given)
Weighting: 2 "steps" for an honors or AP course (e.g., a B becomes an A minus)
Average SAT scores: 589 M, 610 V, 608 W</p>

<p>Thanks!!</p>

<p>I don’t have a copy of my kids’ HS profiles any longer. But ours gave our kid’s GPA, and also a range of GPAs in the class. I honestly don’t remember anything else about it.</p>

<p>It’s probably on your school’s website @thumper1 - ours is. But thanks for letting me know what information it included, which is also something I am curious about!</p>

<p>I’m not pulling out a four year old school profile, but here’s what I remember. It was 4 pages, on one 11x17 with a pocket for the student transcript. Page 1 describes our school (600 to 700 in the graduating class), our town, some of the awards the school received (ancient Blue Ribbon, ancient Newsweek list, maybe something about the football team) Page 2. Number of APs offered, number of AP scholar etc awards, average SAT scores (low 500s), average subject test scores (middling except stuff like Physics and Math 2, which are only taken by strong students). They don’t give an average GPA, they give ranks. My kid with a 93 unweighted, 97 weighted GPA was in the top 6% of the class). Third page had very little as it had the pocket. Weighting was explained (1.10 for AP and honors, 1.00 for Regents level classes, and 1.00 for “sheltered” classes.) Back page had a list of colleges that had accepted students. (Very long.) </p>

<p>If you google “school Profile” you can compare hundreds. Is there a point you are making or something specific you want to know. Otherwise, what it the point of your thread?</p>

<p>I’m curious about the profiles because I want to see what the average GPAs and scores are of other high schools of presumably high achieving students (which are in the majority on CC) so that I can see differences in grading, etc. versus mine. I’m not making any point - what point would I be making? It’s informational in nature in order to help me understand things better. I didn’t realize that there were so many on the board who no longer have kids in high school and so might not have access to that info (even though ours is on the school website).</p>

<p>This is the profile for my school district’s high school. School does not weight or rank (if that matters to you.) </p>

<p><a href=“http://www.bethlehemschools.org/wp-content/uploads/BCHS_School_Profile.pdf”>http://www.bethlehemschools.org/wp-content/uploads/BCHS_School_Profile.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>Interesting thread. I too have seen school profiles available by googling but I get why you might be interested in CC folks’ HS profiles.</p>

<p>Reasonably high achieving small public school district (total HS around 800)</p>

<p>Our profile is on the school website also though they haven’t uploaded this year’s yet. It describes our community, awards the school district has received, our state “report card” grades (all As), % of teachers with masters degrees, graduation requirements and special diplomas, long list of where the previous class was accepted to college, what % go to 4 year college (89%), % of students scoring 3-4-5 on AP exams, AP courses available, how many Nat’l Merit finalists and commended for each year going back 3.</p>

<p>Average SATs are mid 500’s and average ACT is 25.</p>

<p>We just switched to a weighted scale last year but it doesn’t apply retroactively so seniors this year only have one year of weighted grades whether they took AP courses earlier than that or not. The profile explains that. Only AP courses are weighted (highest possible is a 5.0 rather than a 4.0 for regular courses). We do offer honors but those are not weighted.</p>

<p>It lists GPAs by decile (top 10% is 3.9 to 4.19), average GPA (bottom of decile 5) is 3.2. That’s weighted though only for one year of the 3 these seniors have. </p>

<p>I’m not sure what looking at averages tells you about high achievers. If anything, it tells you about average students, but it’s not even a very good measure of that. I think our high school’s grades are pretty inflated and they average about .3 higher than yours. But our weighting system adds a full grade, so the unweighted grades are about the same I think. Our average SAT scores are roughly 40 points per section lower. But what does this mean? I have no idea what fraction of the kids at our school even take the SAT. I don’t see why the kids who aren’t going to college would bother to. That measure is also going to affected by the school culture. I know that some of the best students at our school don’t study for those tests. I’m sure that at some elite schools, even average students are getting intensive test prep tutoring. So, are the differences in average SATs a reflection of quality of the school or a measure of how many parents make their kids prep for the SAT?</p>

<p>Class Size: 350
Average SAT: 680 Verbal, 714 Math, no Writing given
Average Composite ACT: 31
~80 NMF
All classes are honors or higher </p>

<p>Averages are weighted with 1 additional point for AP courses and .5 for honors courses. The
average GPA for the Class of 2013 is 3.321. The grade-point average range is 4.159-2.022.
Can take APs only in 3 and 4th years and no more than 3 Honor/AP per year are allowed.<br>
HS dos not believe in calling many classes “AP” while teaching Regular classes at higher level than APs at other HSs (based on D’s experience at college). When D. was there, HS did not weigh the grades either, no vals, no sals, no ranking, which could easily be determined by college based on student GPA and school profile. </p>

<p>Total # students: 2000+
Avg sat: 480 reading 440 math 460 eng</p>

<p>GPA Range # of Students % of Class
4.30 - 3.75 36 16.51
3.74 - 3.50 77 35.32
3.49 - 3.25 55 25.23
3.24 - 3.00 34 15.60
2.99 - 2.75 10 4.59
2.74 - and below 6 2.75
Total 218* 100.00%</p>

<p>Standardized Testing Profile
Middle 50% Mean
Critical Reading 610-730 666
Math 640-740 678
Writing 630-730 681
Total 1890-2190 2025
245 Students Tested</p>

<p>ACT Summary Middle 50% Mean
English 26-34 29.5
Math 26-31 28.7
Reading 25-32 29.0
Science Reasoning 24-30 26.7
Composite 26-31 28.4
138 Students Tested</p>

<p>The average GPA tells you nothing from our high school. The top performing students taking AP and honors classes do very well, but there is a huge tail (including a lot of non-native English speakers who don’t do nearly as well.) In our system if you change the grades to a 4.0 system (scores are actually reported on a 0-100 scale unweighted), the weighting system gives everyone in regular college prep (Regents) courses about a .3 above the slow courses, and the AP courses another, .3. So it’s much less than most schools.</p>

<p>Can’t find a school profile online, but I do know a few stats for the local high school. My kids don’t attend, though. We homeschool.</p>

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<li><p>There are 89% non-white students attending.</p></li>
<li><p>The school is broken into four schools within the school. The average SAT for all schools combined (for all three sections of the SAT) is 1309. </p></li>
<li><p>10 years ago, it was almost taken over by the govt. because it was failing so badly, but since breaking the school up into four sub-schools, performance has improved.</p></li>
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<p>Inner city public magnet:</p>

<p>Class size: 700
% minority (non-white): 85.5%
Free/reduced lunch: 41%
Avg. GPA: 3.3 UW, 3.6 W
Avg. SAT: 1850
Avg. ACT C: 28
% college: 98% (81% 4-year, 17% CC)</p>

<p>Please explain why it’s important to know about OTHER school profiles? Really, the only one that matters is YOU HS class profile.</p>

<p>^One possible use- comparisons highlight a potential mismatch between GPA and test scores that may affect admission decisions. For example, if you find that your school has a very high average GPA but low test scores relative to other high schools, then a reasonable conclusion is that colleges may not put much stock in the student’s GPA; other factors will have more weight.</p>

<p>Of course, Naviance would be even better for this, but often there aren’t enough data points to draw any meaningful conclusions. </p>

<p>So is this information “important”? Probably not. But there are many topics on CC that rank as useless to someone (e.g., chances threads for me). It’s easy enough not to click on them.</p>

<p>Our profile provides minimal information, because frankly the less they reveal the better. There is no grade or score information provided.
Just for the heck of it I searched “school profile” and clicked on the first random high school I came across. It happened to be in San Jose, CA. The graduating class is 463 students and they have 69 NMSF this year and 89 Commended. I don’t even know how to wrap my head around that. Our school has a graduating class of 382 and one Commended student. That’s it. One. Commended. I don’t think our county has a NMSF…or the surrounding counties.</p>

<p>If you mean Lynbrook High School, San Jose, this from Wiki may be relevant:</p>

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