Let's play rank California universities...

College Search & Selection
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<p>wow, renin...nice list...you place merced over any CSU including those that are more than 100 years old and even cal poly with numbers that equal mid tier UCs if not surpass them.</p>

<p>perhaps you haven't noticed that merced does not even open until fall?</p>

<p>and you completely leave pomona college and the rest of the claremont colleges off your list? amazing in light of the reputation and selectivity there.</p>

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<p>BMOC:</p>

<p>by virture of the California Higher Ed Master Plan, the Cal States are prohibited from awarding PhDs. Thus, you should consider an asterisk to SDSU bcos it's PhD programs are all dual enrollment with other PhD-granting universities, such UCSD or the Claremont schools etc.</p>

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<p>correct, there are joint doctoral degrees on several of the better CSUs such as san diego state, cal poly pomona and long beach state. san diego has the most of these.</p>

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<p>I think renin was referring to the original question posed, which asked for PH.D.-granting universities only.</p>

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<p>if that is so then renin has listed a school that still has not even opened for business and omitted the claremont graduate university which has many distinguished doctoral programs.</p>

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<p>... and has placed UCSD above USC...</p>

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<p>These random rankings are rather silly considering the differing degrees and variables. California is huge, quite vast and in essence should be it's own country. In my ranking system I used tiers and my rankings were essentially based on my gut and nothing else.</p>

<ol>
<li>Stanford</li>
<li>Berkeley</li>
<li>UCLA</li>
<li>Caltech</li>
<li>UCSD</li>
<li>USC</li>
<li>Claremont</li>
<li>UCSB</li>
<li>UCD</li>
<li>Cal Poly SLO</li>
<li>UCI</li>
<li>UCSC</li>
<li>SDSU</li>
<li>Pepperdine</li>
<li>USD</li>
<li>St Mary's College</li>
</ol>

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<p>The previous post by savedbythebell7 seems fair and representative of most posts. I like the proposed ranking system in which there are tiers. It was interesting that only UCSD and USC were placed in the second tier. I agree. Thanks for the post!</p>

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<p>You probably need to include UCR in there somewhere though, forgot about UCR. But anyways, BMOC I agree with what you said about my school SDSU, thanks for that.</p>

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<p>Cal Tech
Stanford
UC Berkeley
UCLA
...</p>

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<p>Why is SDSU rated so low?</p>

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<ol>
<li>stanford</li>
<li>cal tech</li>
<li>cal</li>
<li>usc</li>
<li>ucla</li>
</ol>

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<p>saved, does claremont encompass all the claremont colleges? Either ways, I think that claremont (Pomona, Claremont McKenna and Harvey Mudd) should be in tier 2 and UCI should be in tier 3.</p>

<p>Why is everyone rating UCI so low? I mean, obviously it's lower than standford/cal tech/ucb/ucla etc... but it's at least on par with UCSB/UCD right?</p>

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<p>Yes, I would say it's certainly on par with SB and perhaps even a smidgeon above Davis.</p>

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<ol>
<li>Stanford</li>
<li>CalTech</li>
<li>Berkeley</li>
<li>UCLA</li>
<li>UCSD</li>
<li>UCD/UCSB
7.UCI</li>
<li>USC</li>
<li>UCSC
10.UCSCR</li>
<li>UCR</li>
<li>UCM</li>
</ol>

<p>USC football > UCSD football; UCSD academics >>> USC academics.</p>

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<p>^UCSD doesn't even have football</p>

<p>now, I believe that UCSD is above USC, but UCD/UCSB/UCI above USC?? I'm sorry, but no</p>

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<p>that triton post must have been a joke, katt. first of all there is no campus called UCSCR. second, UCM is not even open for business yet and is still trying to find students for fall. and third, as you say, san diego has no football.</p>

<p>apart from that USC has moved quickly into the national top 25, well ahead of the mid-tier UCs and threatening the top tier.</p>

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<ol>
<li>Cal Tech</li>
<li>Stanford</li>
<li>Berkeley</li>
<li>UCLA</li>
<li>UCSD</li>
<li>UCD/UCSB/UCI/USC
UCSC/UCR
UCM</li>
</ol>

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<p>drj-that just shows how dense I am.. I didn't even see UCSCR -_-</p>

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<p>Hey, let's all continue continue posting UCSD...</p>

<ul>
<li>a school which accepts more students percentage wise (42% vs. 25%)</li>
<li>accepts students who (on average) have lower academic qualifications (1239 SAT v. 1350 SAT, 3.98 v. 4.00)</li>
<li>has a lower peer-ranking as rated by other universities (3.6 v. 3.9)</li>
<li>and above all is ranked less overall (!) (#35 v. #30) </li>
</ul>

<p>above USC. That way, we can all look foolish. Anyone else want to ignore statistics? Reality? </p>

<p>Oh, Johns Hopkins has a great bio and premed program. Ergo, it's surely be better than Yale, right?</p>