Off the top of my head–Bowling Green, NIU, UW Whitewater, actually any number of regional state U’s. All the buildings I Iisted will be essentially done this year except the tower. As well as new roads and landscaping. And the views can be spectacular.
The “temp” or modular structures are so in the shadow of the new larger buildings they are hardly impactful. Most remaining will be gone in a few years. 6 are gone for the Freedom Tower. Another 8 will be removed as soon as the Music Hall is done in the Spring. The rest are older dorms and similar to those at many at publics.
As to the former manufacturing plant=they are doing some nice things with it too. And it does keep costs down–I thought every1 was all a dither about college buildings raising costs. Guess it depends.
They have done some nice things with it on the inside. The theater is 1st class.
Well, I guess you proved I do my campus tours with my eyes half open. NIU (where I stayed overnight in January) is no beauty queen, but it managed to get rid of one-story modular structures before 2015. It also has a green quad in front of the main building, not a giant parking lot.
I stand by my original statement that Liberty’s campus would not likely be impressive to anyone who’s seen a lot of schools. “It’s less ugly than Bowling Green” isn’t much of a defense (at least not if you’ve seen Bowling Green).
Well, UW Madison probably still has a few old mod structures tucked around but nobody cares that much. LU is very candid that it was built with very limited resources but now that is being changed and they deserve credit for that success too. I dont thing they will ever claim to be as nice as Lynchburg College or Sweet Briar or Randolph but they charge half as much too. Impressive–no. But at least they deserve credit for what they are doing too. You MUST have seen all the construction cranes etc. last year. There were no less than five big ones. It would make me think–what’s going on here. UW rarely had 5 major projects going at once. BTW I dont know know your tally but I have visited around 500 schools over the years myself. LU when this cycle is complete will be at least average. If the online $$$ keeps rolling in they might have another major building boom in 10 years. And it has the mountains. Don’t get that in DeKalb.
Next time you are in town I’ll show you a great pizza/beer joint–or my secret Thai place.
Yeah, really. A college that is anti-intellectual.
Unless you plan on working within the limited religious community that share’s your beliefs for the rest of your life, I don’t see how a degree from Liberty University would benefit you in the broader, secular world of work.
“Yeah, really. A college that is anti-intellectual.”
Anti-intellectual?? Really??? Well here is a single web page https://answersingenesis.org/creation-scientists/ you can look at to reconsider that perception. Every individual mentioned there would line-up with Liberty Univ and I’m just guessing that every one would also be considered more intellectual than you based on their curriculum Vitae (although don’t feel bad as those CVs are more impressive than mine also even though I’m in the science industry…or I’d be interested in seeing your CV to help support your position vs. theirs).
Please, with all afforded due respect, that is hardly an all-star line lineup of academics/intellectuals. Rather, they are academic outliers in terms of their aberrational views…
You may be able to dismiss hundreds of scientists and their accomplishments that are listed at one website offhand and likely the many thousands of others like myself that are well-educated scientists not listed on that website…but that is very disingenuous and anti-intellectual in my opinion…of course it’s my opinion and not yours.
This faculty ignores – or agrees to ignore, in exchange for a paycheck – a basic scientific principle. They are as suspect as an astronomer who would claim that, contrary to all evidence, the earth is flat. Disingenuous and anti-intellectual indeed.
Well stated…do they lead an academy? A department? Directors of Research? Nope, many of these folks are nipping at the edges of academia. My wife laughed when they mentioned a Doctor (herself triple board certified) with nary a mention a publication or list of relevant research.
Attempting to support the idea that creationists are scientists @chargerparent wrote:
I looked at just one of these individuals (Dr. Nathaniel T. Jeanson) writings who happens to have “PhD in Cell and Developmental Biology from Harvard University”… if any of these people are scientists, then this guy must be the most scientist-like.
Sciency, yes; but not science… not by a long shot.
(BTW, as a disclaimer chargerparent, since you are so enamored with what is in a person’s CV, I have a PhD in molecular biology from an Ivy institution and have practiced science for 30 years)
Back to the OP’s question. If you are looking for a faith-based college education then it’s certainly fine to have Liberty on your list. But its credibility out there in the big wide world is questioned- in some quarters- and you need to ask yourself if you want an asterisk next to your college education for the rest of your life.
It’s questioned / ridiculed even within evangelical circles, THAT 's how small the circle is. For students who want a faith based, academically-rigorous college, there are lots of excellent choices. If your goal is to work for someone who respects Liberty it’s fine but go into it with your eyes open as to how limiting it is.
I can count the number of times we discussed creation etc at work (finance) on exactly 0 fingers. Actually in most workplaces religion is taboo as a topic at work. And most science does fine without ever looking at it. And many LU students dont buy all of it either.
People don’t discuss creation at work. But being affiliated with a university that has a “young earth” science department (among other things that make professionals roll their eyes with amazement…) is sufficient to shoot any credibility in many cases - ie., the workplace discussion won’t take place because the LU grad will not be taken seriously and thus not be hired outside of a specific circle. Inside that circle LU grads are fine. Outside of it… not so much.
While I know LU grads don’t buy all of it, I know of two kinds: those who acknowledge it was a poor substitute for a college education, and those able to spout things that automatically add to the “ridicule” mentioned above. I’ve never had the same experience (directly or through other people’s stories) of such situations with grads from Wheaton Il, Calvin, Hope, Houghton, Grove City, Point Loma, Biola, Pepperdine, Baylor, etc.
Sad to say but I was at an ER yesterday. My nurse was a fantastic Calvin grad. Super energetic, lively. I can honestly say if she said LU was her alma mater, I would have quietly been – ummmmm.
How would you like your pediatrician to have gotten his undergrad in Bio at LU? My insurance salesman or the gal in HR or finance? Who cares. But this…I’m just saying…
