<p>I recieved an LOA back in early november. Similarly, I know of at least 1 other guy in my congressional district who has an LOA. We both received a nomination from our local congressman (that was all we were lacking in our applications). Our congressman only has ONE open slot this year, and I am not sure how many our senators have. How likely is it that I will get in with this? Only one of us can get an appointment based off of our congressman's slots, so how competitive is it to receive a nomination from a senator? </p>
<p>My Stats:
31 ACT (32 Math, 32 English)
2 Varsity Letters in Lacrosse
3 Varsity Letters in Track/Field
1 Varsity Letter in Soccer
Plenty of AP Classes
Billy Mitchell Award and other awards in CAP
Plenty of Community Service</p>
<p>I'm not sure, but that seems odd. All the material I have read says that he has only 5 slots per academy. I have not ever seen anything about an LOA affecting it.</p>
<p>corrected: if you have an LOA and are selected for appointment NOT from the national pool, you WILL count against your MOC's slate. LOA's have nothing to do with the nomination process except that a nomination may be one of the requirements listed in the LOA. it doesn't matter how you get the appointment, if you're not from the national pool, you WILL count against the slate.</p>
<p>Prothero is right about the CFA, it's pass/fail, and it looks like you definitely passed it (those are stellar scores!). But other posters have mentioned that if your scores are super amazing (like yours) it could help your WCS score a little bit more than just passing.</p>
<p>it really depends on how competitive you are. you'll be competing against candidates from all over, not just your district.
the idea with LOA's is that they'll rise to the top of the national pool. you obviously have a very competitive WCS score, so don't worry about it.</p>
<p>scubaguy, hersheybear has got it nailed. She may, however, have come across a tad too pesimistic in the post immediately above. The number of LOAs compared to the size of the national pool, make it a virtual certainty, if you meet all the other LOA requirements, that you will be offered an appointment.</p>
<p>You're LOA should have said you are "guaranteed an offer of appointment" if you complete your remaining admissions requirements, which in your cases were just getting a nomination. You both got a nomination. You will both get offers of appointment.</p>
<p>Dittos on the past 2. Barring a felony or sex change, you'll get the appointment. Don't sweat the who's or how's. Fyi, the question has been asked here several ways and times: With an LOA and all the requirements (BGO thumbs up, med, CFA, nom, scholastic qual), has ANYONE ever known of someone NOT receiving the apptmt? To my knowledge, none has ever been heard from on CC. </p>
<p>Take comfort and assurance that you'll be "in." Congrats, good luck, stay in the great shape you're in, keep working to the senior year finish line. :cool:</p>
<p>yeah it says i am "guaranteed an offer of appointment upon completion of the following" and the only thing that I had not completed was a nomination but I know have a nomination. I just wasn't sure what would happen because there are two of us with LOA's competing for that slot so I knew one of us wouldn't be able to go off of our congressman's slot. Our senators have not yet mailed out their nominations so it is possible that one of us receives one of those. Is it likely that we will both be offered appointments? and has there ever been any one in this situation before that has not received an appointment?</p>
<p>i'd say, from my experiences and what USNA69 said, that it's definite you'll both get appointments (unless the other guy isn't medically qual'd or didn't pass the CFA - it depends on the requirements listed in his LOA). but if your LOA said that all you needed was a nom, and you got a nom, then you're good.</p>
<p>I do know personally of an example several years ago. We were almost positive that it was because the candidate had not done due diligence in obtaining a nomination. This is the main reason I get paranoid anytime I see someone on here questioning the need for more than one nomination.</p>
<p>last year at CVW admissions said that a nomination is a nomination and that if that is all that was needed and you received one thats all that mattered. So it all looks good for you I wouldn't sweat it.</p>
<p>ScubaGuy, I want to make sure that you understand that even if "the other LOA" in your district gets an appointment, your MOC's district is not limited to one appointment per year. The Academy can decide to offer more appointments than his district allotment if they like the candidates.</p>
<p>We very often see multiple candidates from one district, exceeding the yearly allotment because there were several very strong candidates from that area.</p>
<p>The MOC's "get" one slot per year to fill (some years more, but we won't get into that), but might get more appointments, if the Academy decides that their candidates are sharp. Your LOA is a very good thing, indicating that the Academy thinks you are one of the sharp ones....</p>
<p>When you get a nom, it counts as a nom. If you are on an unranked slate of 10 candidates, you have a nom. If you are an unranked candidate behind a Principal Nom, you have a nom. Even if someone else on that slate gets an appointment, you have a nom.</p>
<p>Don't sweat the competing LOA. Complete everything Admissions and DODMERB asks of you. You should be fine.</p>
<p>Let's clear up a little USNA vocabulary here...</p>
<p>Being LISTED on an MOC's slate (10 per appointment slot available) IS NOT A NOMINATION. It simply is a list containing 10 names. The candidates on this list are referred to as "nominees." USNA selects candidates from the slate or takes the principal nominee and matches them with an appointment...at this point, the candidates have earned that specific MOC's nomination.</p>
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The Academy can decide to offer more appointments than his district allotment if they like the candidates. We very often see multiple candidates from one district, exceeding the yearly allotment because there were several very strong candidates from that area.
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<p>The reason multiple candidates receive appointments in the same district is simply from different NOMINATING SOURCES (whether MOC, VP, Pres., Supt, SECNAV, JROTC/ROTC, national pool, etc). USNA doesn't have any specific quotas for MOC district/states (they have ballpark numbers for demographics).</p>
<p>From the statement above:
1) USNA doesn't control the "district allotment"...its a federal law
2) MOC's aren't limited to appointments...they are limited in NOMINATIONS!
3) USNA doesn't have a set "yearly allotment" for a district...though, they may consider demographics</p>
<p>GreatAmerican, correct me if I am wrong on anything.</p>
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Being LISTED on an MOC's slate (10 per appointment slot available) IS NOT A NOMINATION. It simply is a list containing 10 names.
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It may not be a primary nomination, however it is considered a nomination. Throghout Code 10, the referral to all the 10 individuals is those "nominated". It is a primary cause for confusion. I wish it were changed. The MOC does nominate 10 individuals for each opening. A nominee is, by definition, one who has been nominated. One who has been nominated is, by definition, one who has received a nomination.</p>
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though, they may consider demographics
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Beyond filling the MOCs slates, demographics are no longer considered. The national pool is strictly by order of merit.</p>