Logistics for packing - four months or more in Central Europe

I am planning to spend at least four months in Europe, a stay which may be extended indefinitely.

What should I pack?

I need to be prepared for rain, snow, and warm weather. (I will not have a car and so will need to be out and about in all weather.)

I am by no means a clotheshorse and dress very simply.

What about a kitchen knife? A framed photo to make my rental homier?

My inclination is to take only what will fit in two checked bags and a carry-on – what should I watch out for in terms of baggage size, weight, etc.? I have two wheeled duffles which would be my first thought for the checked bags, but perhaps they are the wrong dimensions or will end up overweight?

All advice welcome!

Couple of questions and some thoughts…

Question - Are you staying in one place and do you have easy access to a washer/dryer?

Thoughts -
Three bags is too much. You need to be able to carry everything by yourself once you are out of the uber or how ever else you are going to get to your rental. European carriers are much stricter about size and weight limits for bags so research your carrier and then weigh your bags at home so there are no surprises when you get to the airport. If you plan on traveling within Europe while you are there, make sure you have a European sized carry on bag (much smaller than US sizes).

Bring a tight color palette so you can mix and match clothes. I usually do black, grey, and blue but go with whatever colors work for you. For me, that means less clothes to bring.

Bring clothes that can be layered. I like vests and zippered sweaters instead of actual sweaters for layering purposes.

Invest in good rain gear - waterproof 3-1 jackets would be good since you’ll go into colder weather, and then waterproof pants.

What a fun adventure!

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You might want to investigate youtube videos of light packing travelers. Many get their baggage down to 1 carry on piece and 1 personal item. Unless you will have a stable home base - you shouldn’t plan on packing more than that.

Don’t try to pack kitchen supplies or framed photos. Just a waste of space; you can personalize your rental when you get there (save some photos on your phone or email, they have photo services in central Europe). But you might find you get enough out of having the photos electronically.

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This is such an open question. What are you going to be doing while there? Sightseeing? Hiking? Attending a wedding? Going to an office? How to pack is really dependent on what activities you need to be ready for.

Thanks for all the replies!

I will be in one place and I have friends who can pick me up from the airport, so there will be no issue in terms of getting luggage to my rental (where it will stay).

My tentative plans are to move permanently to this city, but the first step will be to apply for a residency permit.

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What a special opportunity.

I am no world traveler. My advice though would be that clothes and kitchen items and such can probably be bought in your new city. But personal things like a framed photo, a blanket you love, a small piece of special wall art or a handcrafted something by someone special will make you smile and bring you joy and familiarity in your new place.

If it can be packed I would bring one “all purpose” knife. Like a 6 inch chefs knive. If you have a super reliable rain and/or winter coat. Your favorite socks/underwear.

Is it a big city or a small town or village? How much access to “stores” will you have?

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Might help to know where you’re going. And good luck for sure! Think layers.
A good all weather coat.
Largest power bank the airlines allow to make sure you can keep powering phone/computer (carry-on only).

I know you have friends picking you up but I’d pack much lighter–stay to what you can handle by yourself. My DIL spent 3 months in France with one checked bag and a much smaller carry-on. She could probably have brought less. I’ve traveled easily for 3 weeks in a carry-on and think I could go much longer with easy access to laundry.

I wouldn’t bring knives or kitchen supplies. I’m sure you’ll be able to get what you need there (or borrow from friends in the meantime). (In fact I usually end up bringing back knives and kitchen stuff as souvenirs!)

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Keep a close eye on the weight of your carryon and checked bags. Check to see what the airline allows for international flights and stick to it. We thought we had adhered to the weights for our carryon bags, but they were weighed at check in and not allowed to be carried on the plane. I think the limit when we flew was less than 10 pounds…which isn’t much. Checked bags needed to be 40 pounds…max.

If you wear non-typical sizes, bring more clothes, because you may not be able to find them locally. S2 is 6’4, men’s 2XLT, size 14-15 shoes. Hs been an expat in Central Europe since 2018. I ship him shoes, socks, underwear, etc. a couple times a year or when he comes to visit, as things wear out. He has found a chain that has pants/shirts in his size.

When he went over, he took a large (50 lb suitcase), a smaller bag that would work as a carryon, and a fabric briefcase as his personal item. He went over in March, so wore his heavy coat and boots on the plane. There was snow when he arrived.

Speaking of laundry! Apartments often have washing machines – but dryers are a rarity. S & DIL hang their clothes all over the house. Quick-drying fabrics will be your friend. When we travel in that part of the world, we have found that there are laundrymats (with dryers), especially if you are living in the city center area. Kitchens are small, fridges are very small. People go to stores/markets a couple times a week because there isn’t a lot of room for storage. A knife isn’t going to weigh a lot or take up space, if you have a favorite one you want to bring. (S brought his knife set and left the rest of his extensive kitchen gear here in our basement.)

You’ll need good walking boots that can tolerate rain/snow. Wear them on the plane. Many European cities have cobblestone sidewalks/streets – make sure your shoes are supportive. S said long coats were really helpful in the winter. I buy scarves as souvenirs when we travel – also helps you look a bit more “local.”

If you are on meds, get a 90-day supply from your doc before you leave, and check that you can get a new rx in the country where you’re heading. S2 is on a non-stimulant ADHD med and it’s not available over there. There is expat medical insurance available if your coverage won’t work overseas. S used IMG, was about $900/year. There is underwriting; they excluded his ADHD dx.

If you want to travel while you’re over there, bring a bag that’s small and easy to lift – train travel is the way to go (cheap and frequent) and you need to be able to get your luggage on the train without help. The discount European airlines are cheap, too, but you’ll also need to pack light.

Have a great time! S went to Central Europe “for a year, maybe two” and 5.5 years later, he’s made a great life for himself (and just got married). If you can start learning the language, that will help your transition immensely. If you’re in a major city, you’ll find English speakers, but S says the folks who have the toughest time are those who had no experience in the local language. If you’re in a country that uses Cyrillic letters, learn them now.

Put your books, travel guides, etc. on a device. Bring extra charging cables. Buy a couple of plug adapters for any US electronics your bring (make sure they are dual current devices).

Bring your vital documents – S has needed them for work/residence permits. He’s also had to get them translated for local officials. He photographed all those docs and gave us copies and put them online so we had the info in case anything got lost.

Register with the US Embassy in your country, esp if political events are the least bit concerning.

Hope you have a wonderful experience and let us know how it goes! Feel free to PM me.

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All is good advice! The only thing we did not have in our travels that we had to buy was shorts because of unexpected heat waves. Having a washer and a Carrefour store or the like near you is very helpful.

This! Some European washers are combo washer/dryer. The dryer function is not that great. And the washer capacity is generally very small!

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Quick dry fabrics will totally be your best friend. And washers are not only small they take forever to run. Look for quick dry underwear, socks–those are things that are quick to wash in a sink but can take forever to dry. They can be expensive but totally worth it.

OTC meds in Europe but can be VERY expensive compared to USA depending on the area. If there is something you use on a regular basis then it’s probably worth packing some. That includes ibuprofen and allergy meds. A small “medical kit” would be worth bringing for that amount of time.

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Thanks everyone!

To explain more about my situation – I’ve made many trips to this city, speak the local language fluently and did a one month “test run” in April – I made sure to get an AirBNB with a washer, which I used as well as the drying rack rather than a dryer!

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You should check your particular airline for weight limits on checked bags. Typically I think it’s around 50 pounds per bag. For some airlines you pay a fee if you go over, others might have a hard limit (i.e. they won’t accept a bag that’s over).

I would not pack a kitchen knife - that’s likely to get your bag flagged and might cause a delay when it comes to baggage claim.

Since you might be staying there permanently, I personally wouldn’t go out and buy anything special unless the country has a restricted consumer retail market or inflated prices. Pack what you have and buy what you need locally as it as it comes up.

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Yes, we just took a ton of Pepto to S2 when we visited. Can’t get it there.

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Buying locally can be part of the adventure. I’m sure photos can be downloaded from your camera or phone and printed, then framed in country. I did this in Guatemala last year.

Having just returned from central Europe, I’d buy clothes there if you are more or less standard size. I was impressed with some of the design and natural fabrics in Croatia and remember the same visiting Ukraine a few years back. Dresses are worn more, and are beautiful as well as reasonable in cost. But your favorite jeans might be harder to find in that environment. Comfortable shoes are certainly an American thing, though some brands come from Hungary, Germany and the like.

Agreed on OTC medications.

Be sure to share your adventure! It is a big step to move continents, ability to speak the language or not.

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