Lois the Witch and A Christmas Carol - December CC Book Club Selection

Our December selection is a duo of Victorian novellas with a supernatural bent: Lois the Witch by Elizabeth Gaskell and A Christmas Carol by Charles Dickens. Let the first lead you into Halloween and the second into Christmas!

Lois the Witch was published in October 1859 in the weekly All the Year Round, edited by Charles Dickens. Set in 1691, it tells the tale of Lois Barclay, who travels from England to Salem, Massachusetts after the death of her parents to live with her uncle and his family. Once there, she becomes a target for suspicious townsfolk during the Salem witch trials. Lois the Witch is included in Gaskell’s collection Curious, if True and is free online in both written and audio formats.

Elizabeth Gaskell showcases the height of gothic fiction’s ability to delight in the otherworldly and to dig deep into what truly haunts us. - Audible.com

The perennial favorite A Christmas Carol by Charles Dickens takes a slightly lighter look at the influence of the supernatural, with the story of Ebenezer Scrooge, an elderly miser visited by the spirits of Christmas Past, Present, and Yet to Come. A Christmas Carol, first published in 1843, has never been out of print and has been adapted for radio, film, television, stage, and opera. It is available for free online.

Every idiot who goes about with ‘Merry Christmas’ on his lips, should be boiled with his own pudding, and buried with a stake of holly through his heart. - Ebenezer Scrooge

Discussion begins December 1st. Please join us!

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Here is the link to Lois the Witch online:

And the audio version:

Here is the link to A Christmas Carol online:

https://www.gutenberg.org/files/46/46-h/46-h.htm

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Getting reading to gather my copies and read. I thought I’d pull this thread up as a reminder that December 1 draws ever closer. Actually I expect that I’ll have no problem finishing both books, even if I don’t start quite yet. (I have to finish a couple others first.)

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I just checked out and downloaded both books in Kindle format from my library!

Thanks for the reminders, guys.

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The Lois link above seems to a different Gaskell book(?)

I did find this free Preview - Lois the Witch: And Other Tales - Elizabeth Cleghorn Gaskell - Google Books

After a few pages, I find the old writing style a bit hard to read. Will continue with the preview a while to decide whether or not to order on Kindle.

Thanks @Colorado_mom! Lois the Witch seems to be available in several places, under different titles/covers. In the link above, it’s included as a (long) short story in her collection Curious, If True. (It’s the 3rd selection.)

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I have finished Lois the Witch, and will start A Christmas Carol tomorrow. I look forward to the discussion.

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late to the party, but popping in to say i just finished This Tender Land from August. :slight_smile: I enjoyed it. One of my big questions was wondering if people are still as mean today as they were portrayed in the book? or are we just protected from that all?

anyway - i might be back for december!

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Started reading “Lois the Witch” - it’s nice and short so should be do-able over thanksgiving break! :slight_smile:

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@bgbg4us, good question and I responded on the This Tender Land thread!: This Tender Land - August CC Book Club Discussion - #172 by mathmom

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Well, I finished (and like) Lois the Witch and have pulled out my long-unread copy of The Christmas Carol. One of the many things I like about this book club is the occasional dip into a classic. I’ve never read Dicken’s The Christmas Carol nor anything by Gaskell. I’m pleased with the gentle nudge into doing so.

Looking forward to the start of discussion on Dec. 1.

And for anyone wondering if time’s too short to read and join in 
 nope. Both selections are short.

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I just downloaded Lois the Witch. I’m not so worried about The Christmas Carol. Have read it a couple of times (once for a PhD skit that used its plot), and I’ve seen the version Patrick Stewart presented on Broadway which kept most of the original language. It’s available on youtube.

I’m still slogging through The Historian - it’s actually pretty terrific - but it is not a fast read! Long and dense. (Of course now I feel a great need to read Bram Stoker’s Dracula!)

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I just finished Lois the Witch. Will start A Christmas Carol soon and am glad I didn’t live in those times.

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It’s December 1st! Welcome to our discussion of Lois the Witch by Elizabeth Gaskell and A Christmas Carol by Charles Dickens.

Lois the Witch was pretty dark, but very interesting — a bit of Nathaniel Hawthorne (The Scarlet Letter and/or Young Goodman Brown) and a bit of Arthur Miller (The Crucible). It’s nothing like North and South or Cranford (not that I expected it to be). I think one of the reasons Lois the Witch is so different from Gaskell’s other works is that it’s not contemporary (for her), but set hundreds of years before she lived, and she recreates some of that 17th century language.

I’d already read A Christmas Carol and enjoyed revisiting it. I loved the musical “Scrooge" as a girl and still picture Albert Finney in the role when I’m reading.

Beyond the fact that both works were written in the mid-19th century and the two authors were “frenemies,” the books don’t have much in common, except that both address social ills. This observation from the Ghost of Christmas Present about the ragged children beneath his cloak presents themes that are in Lois the Witch as well as A Christmas Carol:

This boy is Ignorance. This girl is Want. Beware them both, and all of their degree, but most of all beware this boy, for on his brow I see that written which is Doom, unless the writing be erased.

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I found an exhaustive list of discussion questions for Lois the Witch (thanks to Professor Florence Boos at the University of Iowa). It’s more than we’ll ever need, but I’m copying and pasting them all below – skip over or peruse as you wish. Some won’t even apply. We didn’t read “Old Nurse,” for example, but maybe you’ll be inspired to do so. :slight_smile:

Discussion Questions for Lois the Witch

  1. This tale was written in 1859, seven years after the publication of The Old Nurse’s Tale and Other Stories in 1852. How would you compare the tone of this story with that of “The Old Nurse’s Tale”?

  2. Do you see any potential autobiographical themes in the tale? (Gaskell an orphan, had lost siblings) Might anything in Gaskell’s experience have prompted the treatment of so dark a subject?

  3. What were Gaskell’s own religious views? What would she likely have believed about the practice of condemning witches? (a form of persecution against helpless and somewhat marginalized women)

  4. Do you think this story was influenced by Nataniel Hawthorne’s The Scarlet Letter? Do she and Hawthorne have a similar point of view? What are some differences in emphasis?

  5. How does the title, “Lois the Witch,” affect the reader’s expectations of the tale?

  6. What initial situation opens the novella? What causes the reader to feel sympathy for Lois’s plight? Would this motif have appealed to English readers?

  7. What irony is embedded in the name of the ship which carries Lois to the New World? Are other names used in the tale ironic or symbolic?

  8. What do we learn about Lois’s character? (care for graves of parents and servant; sadness)

  9. What is notable about her mother’s final words? Does the narrator find them lacking? Heedless? Ominous?

  10. Why can’t Lois marry Hugh Lucy? What silent judgment seems to be made at this point?

  11. What role does Captain Holderness play in the opening section? What are his views of religion? Of the Puritans?

  12. On arrival, what news do the voyagers learn about the condition of the Massachusetts Bay Colony? What has been its recent political history, and what bearings may this have on the events of the plot?

  13. What are some purposes served by the scene in which Lois and Captain Holdernesse stay with the Widow Smith? What are some features of the household? Of their first feast? (145, different foods, long prayer)

  14. What tales are told of the Indians and French pirates? What do you make of the tale of the desperate woman and the colonists who make no attempt to help her? (147)

  15. What is Elder Hawkins’s response to this narration? To the Indians? (147-48) What alternate view does Captain Holdernesse present? (148)

  16. What experience has Lois had with witches? What seems the significance of the memory? What had been Lois’s response to the desperate witch, and to her prophecy? (pity, fear) What purpose does this incident serve in the tale? (149)

  17. What seems ominous about Elder Hawkins’s response to the story? In what way does Captain Holdernesse defend Lois? (150)

  18. What is added to the tale by the description of the roads and forests on the way to Salem?

  19. How are Lois and the Captain welcomed at the Hickson home? What seems shown by Grace’s initial words and Lois’s response? (153) What has motivated Grace’s dislike for her husband’s relatives?

  20. What remarks on religion and her husband’s past does Grace offer to her guest? (those who failed to resign their livings on conscientious grounds, such as Lois’s father, were wicked)

  21. How does Manasseh intervene in the situation? What is her uncle’s response to her arrival? (155) Grace’s reaction to his sorrow at his only surviving sister’s death? (155, jealous of her husband’s memories of home), offended at Lois’s resentment at her statement that the latter’s mother’s death was God’s will (156). What does Grace maintain in defence of her own godliness? (156)

  22. What do we first learn of Manasseh’s character, habits and prayer? (157)

  23. What fears are suggested by the Captain’s parting? (157) How are his words premonitory?

  24. At this point of the story, what does the reader expect will happen? Is this a good place to end a part of a series?

Part II

  1. In part II, what difficulties does Lois experience in her new home? How is she treated by each of the family members–her uncle, aunt, Manasseh, Faith and Prudence, and Nattee?

  2. What is their reaction to her religious background?

  3. In particular, what is Manasseh’s attitude toward her?

  4. What views of Native Americans are held by the family? How is Nattee portrayed? What views of the relationship of Euro- and Native Americans do you think are implied by Gaskell’s presentation?

  5. What kinds of legends are circulated in the town? Are any of these favorable to Indians? (effects of Indian charmes, bewitching)

  6. What kind of narrative intrusion does the author insert at this point, and why?

  7. What is Lois’s relationship with Faith? What motivates her to tell Faith stories and superstitions she has heard in England, and with what result? (Prudence calls Lois a witch, 165)

  8. How do the household’s young women respond to Pastor Tappau’s prayers, and from what motives? (criticizes Lois, 162; annoys Faith, 162) Why does Faith dislike him? (163)

  9. What seems the relationship between Faith and Nattee? (Nattee fond of Faith, dislikes Pastor Tappau) What effects will this relationship later have on the plot?

  10. What are some ways in which we can tell the narrator’s point of view? Are there elements of humor or irony in the tale?

  11. What is the effect of Ralph’s death on Lois’s situation?

  12. What is the nature of Manasseh’s proposals? Lois’s reasons for not wishing to marry him?

  13. Why will he not accept her refusal or the fact that she has a prior attachment? (has seen a portent, 170; accuses her of blasphemy, 171)

  14. How does the narrator respond to her refusal? (171; she’s harrassed repeatedly)

  15. What is Grace Hickson’s view of this possible alliance? (168, 179, anger) To what degree does she come to accept her son’s attachment to Lois?

  16. What effect is created by the return of Pastor Nolan to the village? His visit to the Hickson home? (his visit causes perturbation, 176-77; Faith sobs hysterically)

  17. What do you make of the spells and potients of Nattee? Why do you think this detail is included in the plot?

  18. What do we learn about Manasseh’s past emotional life? (180, has been suicidal) What commentary does the narrator make at this point about the family’s behavior? (might betray some emotional instability)

  19. What causes an outbreak of terror among the inhabitants of Salem? (factionalism, possible tricks by Nattee)

  20. By what means does the narrator undercut the credibility of those who recount alleged demonic events? (183-184)

  21. How do members of the community respond to Pastor Tappau’s charges? Is it significant that even Pastor Nolan is frightened? How do the Hickson family members respond? Lois?

  22. At the end of section II, what kind of outcome do readers expect?

Part III

  1. What explanation does the narrator give for belief in witchcraft? (fear, revenge)

  2. What is Faith’s reaction to Lois’s questions about Nattee’s charms? (distrusts her, 42) What prevents Faith from imparting her opinions to Lois? What may she be concealing?

  3. What are Faith’s views on religion? In the context of this story, is this significant? Has Grace Hickson succeeded in passing on her piety to her daughters?

  4. Why do you think the narrator chose Hota, the Indian servant, as the first victim to be accused of witchcraft?

  5. What is Lois’s response to the condemnation of Hota? (44, troubled) Why do you think her narrator makes her protagonist believe in the existence of witches?

  6. What is Grace Hickson’s response to the news? (wishes member of respectable household had been used as an example)

  7. What methods have been used to extract Hota’s confession? (45) What have been the signs of alleged demonic possession? (45)

  8. What is Manasseh’s reaction to the topic of witchcraft? (fears he may be possessed, 47) What changes occur in his reaction to Lois? (she leads him into temptation, 48)

  9. What incidents/decisions prevent Pastor Nolan from from receiving Faith’s letter? What do you think it contained? (49)

  10. What is Pastor Nolan’s response to Lois’s presence and conversation? What prompts Faith’s anger?

  11. What events precede the scene in which Lois is accused of witchcraft? How do the different family members respond to the prospect and sight of the execution?

  12. What do you make of Prudence’s desire to see the execution? Her anger at Lois? Her accusation of sorcery? Who had first suggested this idea to her? (Faith, 53)

  13. Cotton Mather’s sermon is reproduced from the historical record. What are some of its salient features?

  14. What prompts Prudence’s accusations? Had Hota mentioned her as a witch? (no) Does anyone attempt to help or speak for Lois?

  15. How do the Hickson family respond to these accusations? Do you think they could have prevented the outcome had they tried?

  16. What embarrassments attend Manasseh’s attempts to argue for her release? Are there valid points to his arguments? (a critique of predestination in general)

  17. How does Grace Hickson interpret Manasseh’s mental illness? (result of Lois’s spells, 59)

  18. At her trial, who are her accusers? (all young girls) What are the means of examination? (63)

  19. What events occur during her imprisonment? Who visits her and with what effect? (Pastor Tappau demands her confession; Grace pleads with her to retract her spells; she comforts Nattee) Why do you think these scenes are included?

  20. What is especially striking about the interview with Grace?

  21. Why was Manasseh unable to attempt to help her? (drugged by his mother) What happens to him? What does his action add to the scene of Lois’s death?

  22. Who else among the inhabitants of Salem and the story’s characters suffers a similar fate? (Pastor Nolan) Why were some dogs also killed?

  23. What is moving about the account of her death? How do the bystanders react? (have some sense of having committed a crime)

  24. What is added to the story by the accounts of the later repentent statements of Prudence and the residents of Salem? What has prompted them to repent? (desire to avoid punishment)

  25. What part does the return of Ralph Lucy play in the plot? (provides a frame and commentary) Do you think the story is improved by our knowledge of later events?

  26. What is added to the story by the use of historical documents? How would the effect of the story have been altered if the readers did not know that such events had occurred?

  27. Are there elements of the plot or story which you believe are left unexplained? (how was Nattee accused, for example–by Prudence? what caused Prudence and Grace to realize their former error)

  28. How is Gaskell able to create a sense of suspence and progression when the reader knows in at least a general way what will occur? Does the story’s tone suggest the possibility of a happy ending?

  29. What has been Gaskell’s purpose in presenting such an horrific series of events?

  30. Do you find the psychological patterns presented plausible? Does the story have any present day social application?
    https://victorianfboos.studio.uiowa.edu/elizabeth-gaskell-lois-witch

And here’s a more reasonably sized list for A Christmas Carol. As always, I am posting discussion questions more as a reference or “memory jogger” for those who finished reading a while ago. Just fly over them if you’re not interested:

Discussion Questions for A Christmas Carol

  1. Why does Dickens spend so much time describing the fireplace in Scrooge’s rooms? Why does he populate the tiles with scenes from the Old Testament, Arabian Nights, and the Apostles?

  2. Is Dickens’s use of ghosts to help Scrooge reform effective? Are each of the ghosts welldeveloped? Which ghost did you like best; which least?

  3. Why wasn’t Marley saved, while Scrooge was saved?

  4. Why does the Ghost of Christmas Past say that Fezziwig’s party did not merit the kind of gratitude exhibited by the people who attended the party? What was Scrooge’s reaction to the Ghost’s comment?

  5. Which event in his past life seems to affect Scrooge the most?

  6. Why does Scrooge say that the Ghost of Christmas Present is responsible for closing shops on Sunday? What is the Ghost’s reply to Scrooge; is the reply effective?

  7. Why does the Ghost of Christmas Present answer Scrooge by saying: “If he be like to die, he had better do it, and decrease the surplus population,” when Scrooge asks if Tiny Tim will live?

  8. Scrooge was initially aghast at the expense the Cratchit family undergoes in preparing for Christmas, but later changes his mind. What causes Scrooge to change his mind about the family?

  9. Many film and stage versions of the story omit the passages about the miners, the lighthouse and ship. Why do you think Dickens included them in the story? Do they add anything to the story?

  10. Why does the Ghost of Christmas Present tell Scrooge to fear the child named Ignorance most?

  11. Is the story effective in portraying the lot of the poor in Victorian London? Is Scrooge’s reformation believable? Does Dickens do a good job of expressing his outrage over the conditions in the jails and workhouses?

  12. What makes this story so timeless?
    http://www.fremontgreatbooks.org/index_htm_files/A%20Christmas%20Carol.pdf

It’s been at least 20 years since I read The Scarlet Letter and 40 years since I read The Crucible. I didn’t look forward to revisiting that time or place at all. I hated just about every minute I spent reading Lois the Witch. It wasn’t just the subject matter, but I found Lois irritating and everyone else appalling. (Well maybe not Captain Holderness.) But for me the worst was the pendantic interspersions of history lessons. All tell, no show. Thankfully the story was short.

After that A Christmas Carol was a breath of fresh air. It’s not my favorite Dickens novel by any means as I am not crazy about how it pounds you over the head with its moralism. But Dickens is a man in love with words - sometimes to the extent that he uses seven when one would have been perfectly servicable: “Scrooge! a squeezing, wrenching, grasping, scraping, clutching, covetous, old sinner” But they are such great words. I love the way they pile up. (Even if I sometimes and reminded that yes, Dickens was paid by the word!) I’d forgotten how each ghost is so different, and that the last one didn’t even need to talk. I’m not sure I believe Scrooge would have changed so quickly, but it’s a great fable.

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Just some thoughts:

Neither story has a surprise ending. The reader quickly intuits the end of the story; in the case of Lois the Witch the title tells all, though I kept hoping for a reprieve.

Unlike @mathmom, I enjoyed Lois the Witch, though I preferred a couple others in Curious, If True. Yes, I read them all. I too noted the all tell/no show aspect of the story. Didactic is the word I’d use. Unfortunately, history repeats itself and I’m not sure we’ll be judged lightly over this or that in the future. Anyway, it made me want to reread The Witch of Blackbird Pond - a longtime favorite of mine.

I’ve read embarrassingly less of Dickens than I should have. So I thoroughly enjoyed The Christmas Carol. It’s easy to understand why it’s a classic.

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Same. Lois was so passive – “milquetoast” as my Grandma would have said. She’s really a departure from Gaskell’s other heroines. Margaret Hale from N&S would have gone down fighting. And in the face of Puritan moralism and ignorance, Lois was definitely no Hester Prynne.

I didn’t notice the pedantic element at all. I liked the jog back in time. A few historical references sent me to Wikipedia, where I revisited that very creepy time in American history. I went down the Cotton Mather rabbit hole – a man so progressive and so backward, all rolled into one.

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