<p>Character begins at home. I agree with ACollegeDad.</p>
<p>D took the Math SAT today. She said that unlike last June, IDs were checked very closely.</p>
<p>pullinghair- I warned my S that there may be more vigilence today. He was glad, said ID’s were not checked at all last time he took it.</p>
<p>D was also surprised that IDs were checked today. To me it’s just a band-aid solution. What about the fake IDs?</p>
<p>Better than a fingerprint would be a digital photo taken of every test taker when they check in. It would require a tablet computer with a special CB app to upload the pictures immediately to the student’s file. But it could later be checked by anybody–high schools, colleges–who have access to the scores without needing to take another fingerprint.</p>
<p>wildwood, I think pictures would be better than a fingerprint too. But the other issue is that the students pics need to be checked again when they turn the test in, to make sure they did not swap tests during the testing session. </p>
<p>Plus, I worry about the ramifications of fingerprints being accidentally/intentionally tagged to the wrong student. And fingerprints are not easy to take accurately. When I was fingerprinted for my nursing license, they were done by someone that had been specifically trained for it and had been doing it for years. I have heard stories about nurses having to re-do the fingerprinting multiple times because they were not readable.</p>
<p>combine the above two suggestions and get a picture when the test is turned in as long as they make sure people are not swapping them at some point.</p>
<p>I should think that test swapping opportunities could be curbed by good proctoring from the moment the test is handed out, and maybe showing id when it is turned in. Random seat assignment could also help fight any pre-agreed collusion.</p>
<p>I believe that “good proctoring” may be one of the overall problems! LOL
I don’t know how many they have at each test site. But if you have 300 students or more at a test site, it is hard to watch each one and catch all cheating.</p>
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Someone willing to fake test scores would certainly invest in faking other credentials too.</p>
<p>I’m sure many of these and other tests are administered abroad. Have these organizations ever tried to check how much hanky-panky there is in countries where corruption is rampant, or would they rather not know? There will even be collusion involving the proctors in addition to this and other switching techniques discussed earlier.</p>
<p>^^Really? Is there ever only one proctor for 300 students? At out testing center (our school) there was a proctor for each classroom of no more than 20 students. I didn’t know there weren’t any minimum standards required by the CB.</p>
<p>Dad o 3- interestingly, a few countries require that students use their passports for ID. There is another thread on CC right now where a student had to reschedule his SAT sitting because his passport was not ready for him. </p>
<p>Yes, passports can be faked too, but not quite as easily as school ID or drivers license.</p>
<p>There may be, wildwood. I know when I took it many years aog, we were all in one big cafeteria, and there were 300+ test takers. Maybe they have changed the setup.</p>
<p>I agree that honesty begins at home, but what about cheating and other “petty” crimes that my kids see and hear about? Should I tell their parents? Didn’t they reinforce this behavior in the first place? Here’s a few examples my kids have told me about:</p>
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<li>cheating: heard about one kid who copied his friends answers in a SAT test. Kid decided he felt guilty and eventually canceled the test.</li>
<li>double-accepting: I heard “through the grapevine” that a friend’s kid couldn’t diced which school to accept, so accepted both places after the 5/1 deadline.</li>
<li>drugs: son tells me his friend gets pot paid for from money his parents give him. I don’t like these parents b/c I heard they described my son (w/ Asperger’s) as “■■■■■■■■”.</li>
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<p>In terms of checking test takers, I think it’s too involved to do the fingerprinting or digital ID. I think test takers should be required to take the test at their home school, with very few exceptions and the procters should know the kids, if possible. The number of test takers is too huge to handle something too complicated on test day.</p>
<p>of interest:
<a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/sat-act-tests-test-preparation/1218276-do-previous-scores-get-cancelled-if-caught-cheating-sat.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/sat-act-tests-test-preparation/1218276-do-previous-scores-get-cancelled-if-caught-cheating-sat.html</a></p>
<p>this is a thread that a student just started about getting caught cheating on the SAT. sigh</p>
<p>As an aside, most countries have national ID cards which are not easily faked (at least in Europe).</p>
<p>limabeans…in our area, not all schools offer the SAT/ACT in the home school. My S has to go to another school to take the test, he does not have a choice.</p>
<p>vlines, I think CB should cancel ALL test scores if they “discover” a student cheated. Don’t think, right now, they do much other than a little slapping-on-the-wrist.</p>
<p>Yeah, I know some schools aren’t test sites, but that should change.</p>
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<p>With a couple of jacka$$es like that for parents, the kid probably needs the pot to get by. 
j/k</p>
<p>limabeans, that is a thread that a student just started on CC about getting caught cheating on his SAT. But I agree. I think that they are also banned from taking it again in the future.</p>