<p>Background:
Male & Korean
Metro-Detroit area
High School: public & US News Silver Medal High School
Income: around $93K-95K (Will need/apply for financial aid)
Interested in: Engineering/Medical/Business</p>
<p>Academics:
GPA (unweighted): 3.88-3.90
Class rank: Top 15%
Mostly advanced/honors/AP classes
National Honor Society
National Spanish Honor Society</p>
<p>Extracurriculars:
Model UN Co-president
Key Club Class Representative/Officer
Science Olympiad Captain</p>
<p>4-year Varsity Swimming
4-year Varsity Swimming Award
4-year Scholar Athlete award (swimming)
Frosh/JV/Varsity Track (1 year of each)
3-year scholar athlete award (track)</p>
<p>Volunteer @ Oakland University Lowry Childcare Center
Volunteer @ Gleaners Food Bank-Oakland Branch
Church Youth Sunday School Teacher
250+ Hours of service</p>
<p>Michigan Boys' State attendee
United States Military Academy Summer Leadership Seminar Attendee</p>
<p>Miscellaneous:
Good teacher recommendations
Good essay</p>
<p>Applied Schools:
USMA (West Point)
USNA (Annapolis)
USAFA (Colorado Springs)
University of Michigan-Ann Arbor
Michigan State University
Others</p>
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<li><p>You’re going to have to choose between engineering, medicine, and business. Listing those three just makes it look like all you care about is getting rich. Also, those programs are housed in separate schools. </p></li>
<li><p>Your 32 ACT probably isn’t as strong as you think, depending on which “Metro-Detroit” high school you go to.</p></li>
<li><p>How do you know your recs and essays are good?</p></li>
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<p>@ivyleaguer2400
I know my teachers well and they like me as a student, and many people who go into engineering/medical/business aren’t rich. I’m applying for them because they interest me. Are you going to start being biased toward people who have worthless degrees because they’re poor?</p>
<p>I miss your point. Why would a less financially fortunate person have a higher tendency to pursue a “worthless degree” pathway than a “rich” person</p>
you will not qualify for the PELL at all, and will generally be ineligible for need-based financial aid, I suspect. However, you would still be able to receive fed loans at $5,500, and the university might find another way to give you merit/grant. Just wanted to give you a heads up. Your parent’s income is not in the “need” range as an in-state student, no matter what you or they think.
Be certain you have an affordable financial safety – eg. a school that would offer you big merit awards for your academic performance – somewhere where you’d be in the top 25% of the student population.</p>
<p>Otherwise, I like your chances (for admission).</p>
<p>I think you’ll get in. Talk to your parents about helping pay for it, cause you’re probably only getting loans. I don’t know if commuting is feasible, but if you have to save a few k…</p>
<p>if ur set on medicine or engineering, honestly msu might not be a bad choice. i know its not the option you would like but msu looks a lil cheaper. plus you would prolly get some money too
Umich does not grant that much of an advantage in engineering or medicine (I think, dunno about medicine too much tbh) especially if cost is ur concern. And lets face it msu is probably more fun than umich
biz is completely diff tho,</p>
<p>Yeah…most UM engineers get hired before graduating. The employers come to them. The med school is highly regarded and takes in a huge # of UM premeds. Ross likewise if you get in, great career options. </p>
<p>As for State or other in state schools being financial safeties, don’t rely on it. The tuition is slightly lower, but like all other in state schools, limited funds for schollies (and grant $). I had similar stats to OP, didn’t get anything from them but loans, work/study. Same with WMU. Only room and board from Oakland. By all means though, apply to them and make a decision later. Where is “more fun” coming from? I guess cause you never have to study?</p>
<p>^^yes. engineering is quite an egalitarian field. Maybe your resume will get passed around a lil more or maybe the career fair will be a little more represented due to umich name. Nevertheless MSU is not a no name school and if you have a strong resume and demonstrate good skills you will get interviews.
a regret of mine is that i went to the more expensive umich (even with a scholarship) over my own in state school (wayyyy worse than msu btw) or some other school that was cheaper. just not worth it tbh. however try explaining that to my 18 year old self, i def would not have listened. The smart guys who went to my state school are doin quite well and prolly better than a lot of my class at umich
I am not just a hater tho. If it is biz, umich vs msu is not even a question. it has to be umich even if that means tons of debt.</p>
<p>^^ Statistically hylyfe is correct. The salary ranges for starting engineers is fairly narrow. Check out naceweb. MIT, Cal Tech get a boost but it’s not even a ten grand boost from companies that hire lots and lots of engineers. The midwest is ground zero for many good engineering programs. That should not deter anyone from going to Michigan which has an incredible history as an engineering school - 3 generations in my family (not me), but should be a factor if finances are a serious issue and you have acceptances at any other of the good midwest engineering programs.</p>
<p>You will likely get into Michigan and Michigan State.<br>
I don’t know about West Point or the Naval Academy, but good luck. Are you applying USMMA? You have a strong chance. </p>
<p>If you want to see big scholarship money, then apply to an out-of-state private school (not top 40 schools) that will want you because you are academically strong and you’ll bring diversity to the campus. All the colleges now want bragging rights to having students from all 50 states. Since you are obviously willing to live outside Michigan, then you can get creative and apply to strong schools further out and hope you will be the “diverse” applicant who is up for that school’s Presidential scholarship award. For example, you can try Southern Methodist University in Dallas (they have a reputable business school and engineering school) and give a lot of scholarship money. It doesn’t hurt to try.</p>