<p>I doubt it, they're all private schools, so I think they can take whomever they want and pass on those they don't.</p>
<p>i agree, probably a lot of factors come into play, but after spending sometime on cc i have concluded that for columbia atleast ecs and essays are VERY important</p>
<p>Maybe the essays were especially important this year.</p>
<p>yes thats actually good.. something that applicants can control</p>
<p>Sorry, I haven't visited this board in a few days.</p>
<p>Trust me, the other person with the low stats that was accepted played no sports and I believe had no extracurriculars at all (maybe newspaper), but he did work alll throughout high school after school and his grades and scores weren't that bad. Many people in the 1200s make Columbia.</p>
<p>I went to an info session a couple of weeks ago and the guy conducting it was actually my regional director and was absolutely FULL of himself ("EVERYONE at Columbia loves telling everyone else what's on their mind. If you DON'T like doing that, don't bother applying") and that was a major turnoff. And when we found out their overall acceptance rate is about 10%, my dad freaked out and said I shouldn't even bother with Columbia because it would be too much of a reach. I found it pretty immature and humorous, since he skipped over the fact that they admitted 45% of their ED applicants and 8% of their RD applicants.</p>
<p>But I still love Columbia. I don't know why :. Whenever I see its name on the Ivy League board or think of it, my heart skips a beat and I get all excited.</p>
<p>Too bad I'm a rising junior :P.</p>
<p>Oh wait, what was this thread about?</p>
<p>did they really admit 45% in ed, i thought it was more like 24%.
columbia had really quirky decisions this year, earlier a poster wrote a story or someone from his school who got in with 1200's and a ranking between 30 or 40, but he worked throghout high school, which seems like a big plus, anyway maybe columbia just doesnt do the number thing</p>
<p>I think Columbia's admissions are the most erratic.</p>
<p>how do other schools manage their admissions, would you say they're more objective?</p>
<p>I don't know how to define "objective" in this regard.</p>
<p>I just think that in terms of the student body, you will find a ton of diversity at Columbia whether that be by academic ability, EC devotion, general intellect, etc.</p>
<p>Is Columbia's student body pretty diverse, moreso than the other schools?</p>
<p>i too have heard it is, but i get really mixed signals regarding columbia admissions, it is very erratic and though i didnt think columbia was really big on numbers i do now</p>
<p>I think the 45% is for SEAS ED, not the whole undergrad.</p>
<p>But remember that SEAS applicants are considered self-selecting (the average grades of the applicants are very high to begin with and there are much fewer reach applicants than the college). This explains the better statistics of the average SEAS student compared to the average CC student.</p>
<p>24% is for college ED, newyork. That's basically what you can expect for ED for schools like Pton, Duke, and others. RD is much lower, and the suggested reasons for this are all over the place.</p>
<p>does it really help with ed or are unis right that there is no difference?</p>
<p>My S's GC said if he was interested in an Ivy, Columbia has the most leeway in her experience with accepting lower stats. They get their quota and then other things come into place. She's had kids under 1350 get in and do very well. They were hard working, studious kids, none of them affluent or had unusual EC's etc. Brown she said also accepts lower stats, but not in the same numbers. I think it was Columbia that told my friend they understood about kids not testing well or affording prep tests, etc. It matters but not as important as some think. To say a 1500 student "deserves" to get into a school over a 1350 seems a bit much. There's a lot more to someone than 1 number.</p>
<p>Hi, I'm from Penn... I'd just like to say something that people seem to not realize, and it's a little Pet peeve of mine:</p>
<p>The Ivy League is a sports conference, not some sort of academic holy grail. It is not a way to determine your child's brilliance, so applying to an Ivy just because it is an Ivy is ridiculous.</p>
<p>However, maybe you should take a look at what the schools are doing. Perhaps they've determined that in the grade-inflated high school world, the SAT is no longer the end-all be-all measure of intelligence. What I've noticed is that many schools now seem to be emphasizing individuality & drive more than most other factors. And who knows? Maybe the kid's parents went to Columbia. Maybe he's from Alaska. Maybe he wrote excellent essays. Maybe he has a learning disability that makes standardized testing invalid.</p>
<p>If you visit the school, and it feels like home, apply. What's the worst that can happen? </p>
<p>That said, Columbia's sports programs.... well. yeah, maybe it shouldn't be an Ivy anymore. ;)</p>
<p>Oh Harvard accepts plenty of sub-1350s, too, and so does Princeton. All the ones I know like that at these schools are doing well, wherever they are. So if you have a 1320 or something and want to go to Harvard, your chances aren't better at Columbia than there just because of a basically good SAT score. Just apply where you want to go.</p>
<p>it is now CUNY at Harlem> NewName</p>
<p>rejection from CUNY Harlem and UC Palo Alto must be rough on you, eh, baba</p>
<p>haha.. good one jono.. baba you have already terrorized the upenn board can you leave us columbians in peace?</p>