Looking for reaches! 3.7UW/4.2W, 36 ACT, Math [GA resident]

I am not sure if William and Mary would be prestigious enough, but they offer a degree in computational and applied mathematics. They make it very easy to combine it with a double major or minor in comp sci.

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It does not look too difficult, according to Declaring or changing a curriculum or major | College of Liberal Arts & Sciences at Illinois . However, being a math major instead of a math&CS major may affect access to CS courses.

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Maybe grandma could buy him a house instead because Chicago or Alabama - it’s likely going to be a struggle to make a purchase.

I wouldn’t pursue Chicago bcuz of marketing. If it’s right, it’s right there are lots of possible reach schools. So it might make sense to find those that, on paper, fit best.

Congrats to your son on his successs.

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Not sure how the GT pathway works. If that is the preferred option then you might have to check exactly what courses they want him to take and see if they transfer at these other options. Are you assuming Georgia tech is a NO because he was not admitted to distance learning?

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I would take pathway to GaTech. There is no way you can find better deal and more prestigious school than Tech with your local scholarships.
GaTech alumni with Math degree, DD at Tech paying OOS tuition, and huge family of GaTech graduates with variety of majors.

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With respect to this, you may want to note that a major in data science combines aspects from mathematics (particularly statistics) and computer science.

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If interested in quantum computing, he might want to consider physics, particularly if he’s enjoying AP Physics. I can see many paths to studying quantum computing, but to me the most obvious would be physics with some CS and math mixed in.

Given that quantum computing is still an emerging field, he might want to consider PhD programs.

If research is of interest, I would suggest he consult the tables in this link (taken from Swarthmore’s site) for schools with high matriculation rates into PhDs for physical sciences, math, and CS. But even if he doesn’t pursue a PhD, these schools wouldn’t have such good track records with grad schools if they didn’t have strong undergraduate programs in the respective disciplines.

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As an alternative opinion, I’d say that a student who has yet to take linear algebra, such as the OP’s son, would do well to consider purely undergraduate-focused colleges with strong math departments along with universities to see which style of education may be more individually suitable.

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That would increase the risk of running out of math courses, particularly in a smaller math department.

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That is great info about the schools very much on our radar. We’ve somewhat purposely not visited UGA and talked it up because that’s already built into being a HS student in the metro area. It’s the dream school for so many kids, and we want him to give other schools a fair assessment. Other parents have said the campus is really spread out so maybe it lacks a more village like, contained feel? Based on our experience, I doubt my son would even notice any differences. We did like the Auburn campus, specifically the surrounding town, more than Clemson, but the tour guide at Clemson was really convincing about the sense of community and belonging. Clemson has become much more of a toss up for acceptances, so it may not even matter what we think!

That is interesting that Tech isn’t given its proper due in your kids’ circle. I think my kid being in a lower tier of the academic hierarchy and therefore Tech is a reach for him, he personally has the opposite impression. But I have heard other kids talk about Tech as an afterthought, a fall back. One kid is still salty he’s at Tech. It doesn’t help that he got waitlisted at BU (he won’t accept the concept of yield protection) and his older brother is at MIT. I hope he comes to appreciate his safety school!

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Yes, thank you. I started looking around CC for EA, ED1, ED2 information and that some deferred kids have been encouraged to convert to ED2. Oh the games they play.

Thank you and you have been so helpful on CC in providing so much Alabama related information. He applied August 4, got the Presidential Elite letter mid Sep. My sis-in-law after learning about the even better NM package, said you’re done right? She cannot comprehend why we’d keep looking at any other school. But Grandma


Those 2 voices are both reasonable. If you have 300k+ to spend, go buy a house. Reach for the highest potential. Prestige matters.

We are encouraging him to go all in for UChicago. I told him he’s done all the things he was supposed to do already, so be his whole wacky self in the essay if he wants.

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Distance math is a good indicator for acceptance. They pretty much say so.

“Interested students should have a profile like students in the top quarter of Georgia Tech’s first-year class to be competitive.”

But we’ve heard last cycle even some distance math kids weren’t getting in.

They do publish lot of information about the pathway and they have a good transfer equivalency tool.

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We hope he gets the pathway. I think it may have been somewhat automatic previously but the wording now is “may be given the opportunity to apply as a transfer student”. They also added the Pre-Calc requirement that wasn’t there just last year. My middle daughter has the pathway offer for Ivan Allen. The APS pathway still says “have the opportunity”
no equivocation, no Pre-Calc requirement. Who knows what they mean by “may be given”.

We agree that it’s an excellent option, especially for a tough admit school.

Very interesting. This helps a non-Math person look for undergraduate programs without understanding any of the course listings. I’ll pass this along to the hubby who’s more technology oriented if not Math-y.

Pathway is not automatic at all unless you meet a qualification, and then it is optional to be granted by the admission office. I think the pathway option is not a great one for many and we know more than a few kids who have gone there without contacts who have regretted it. If your kid is coming from somewhere where they know a bunch of kids on campus already and are transferring in and are outgoing and sociable they will be fine. But if they’re transferring in and didn’t know anyone and are introverts, it can be brutal. Not worth it in my opinion in a lot of cases. Of course depends on where they are transferring from.

DD OOS was thinking GaTech was her match. It was in her top list but she would initially prefer other schools (probably because I am GaTech graduate and was pushing Tech too much
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She was accepted to UMich, CMU, Case, and UMD. She was waitlisted at Tech and got very lucky to get in the last days of April. We were ready to consider a transfer path for legacy as a family member. She never regretted her choice.
Another DD’s best friend now is GaTech freshman. She also had a huge list of top schools with acceptances, but preferred GaTech.
If someone salty at Tech it is his/her problem. It the best technical school for full-pay kids even OOS. Tech is top 10 in all Engineering fields, CS and many other subfields. Tech also allows you to change major.

Is your child legacy at GaTech? Does he have a father, mother, grandparent, or sibling who graduated or studies now at Tech? If yes, then the legacy pathway is automatic.

I don’t think that I would have him apply to UChicago. Even if he did somehow get accepted, after reading your two threads, I don’t think it would be a good fit. You can’t be even a little bit lazy. Every class is a lot of work.

I have heard both - how great the pathway is and how it’s not good to start at a college expecting to leave. My daughter wants to go for it. I’ve encouraged her to treat her current school like her 4 year school but she went far from home and misses home. My son looks like he wants to do the pathway as well. Luckily my kids know/will know a lot of friends who go to Tech. Including the salty one.