looking just at the SAT scores....

<p>I know there is more to an application than SAT scores, but I need to know if I have a chance at Dartmouth with these scores.</p>

<p>CR: 730
M: 620
W: 610</p>

<p>I know I can do better, I was just a little nervous. I got a 690 on my PSAT math.</p>

<p>I heard that Dartmouth doesn't look at writing, is this true?</p>

<p>So assuming that I get above a 700 on the October SAT, am I within range for Dartmouth?</p>

<p>thanks.</p>

<p>oops i just posted this thread three times. sorry my bad. if the mods could delete the other threads that would be nice...</p>

<p>Yes. Make sure you get a >720 on Math.</p>

<p>According to Collegeboard:</p>

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SAT Critical Reading: 660 - 770
SAT Math: 670 - 780
SAT Writing: 660 - 770

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<p>As you can see, both your math and writing scores are 'out of range' for Dartmouth. That doesn't necessarily mean you wont get in though. All I could definitively say is that getting higher scores would improve your chances. Also, I generally look at what scores a school chooses to report as an indicator of if they 'care' about those scores. This year they started reporting the SAT Writing ranges. At first, I know, they were very resistant to the writing scores and didn't report it. They have become less clear if they care about writing. I'd say it does matter, but to what extent I don't know. From personal observation of the accepted threads, it did seem like there was a larger amount of students with high math and critical reading, and low writing, compared to any other subject being the sole 'low' score. (low meaning high 600s)</p>

<p>I'd say it should be a priority to get 700+ on each section of the SAT. Writing is less important than the other two, but it's not like they're going to totally ignore it.</p>

<p>I am just curious as to my odds at Dartmouth for the class of '13
Assuming I can't apply Early Decision (Financial Reasons)</p>

<p>ACT- 34 (Math-36, reading-36, english-33, science- 32)
SAT- 2160- (Math- 800, Critical Reading- 670, writing- 690_
GPA- 4.35 WEIGHTED, 3.93 UNWEIGHTED
Class rank- 3/768</p>

<p>Freshman- All honors
Sophomore- 6 honors, 1 was IB, 1 was AP
Junior- All IB
Senior- 5 IB, 1 AP
Totals- 12 IB, 2 AP, 10 honors</p>

<p>Class Vice president
NHS Member
2 varsity sports (track and cross country)
Urban Youth Tutor (3 years and leadership position)
Volunteer at Food Shelf
IB Diploma Candidate
Ignite Leadership Program
Math Team (Varsity Four Years)</p>

<p>All I can say is....</p>

<p>I took the SAT twice. </p>

<p>CR:520
M:600
W:630</p>

<p>CR:570
M:600
W:580</p>

<p>In the end.... I got a Likely Letter followed by an acceptance letter. </p>

<p>**Of course my SAT scores were not the only factors in my application! Which obviously shows the adcomms look at more than numbers. I also took the ACT and scored a 23 then a 25.... so my scores sucked, but I still grabbed their attention in some way and now I will be attending =)</p>

<p>yeah but you were a unique applicant (top 1% in class, first gen URM, from Colorado).</p>

<p>Slipper1234, I agree. Which still proves numbers aren't <i>everything</i> =)</p>

<p>But I will say, I had a friend get accepted to Harvard last year with even worse scores and he wasn't an URM. We had the same EC's. lol. So I really don't know what they look for... but I know both my friend and I were honest and passionate. =)</p>

<p>I sent an email to the admissions at Dartmouth yesterday inquiring about how heavily SAT writing score weighs in admissions decisions, and I'll post the results I get from the response to that. All I've gotten so far is the generic robot email saying to check the website to see if your question is answered there--its not.</p>

<p>Hey what does URM mean??</p>

<p>under represented minority. It usually gives one a boost in the admissions process and is often criticized, but that is a debate for another place.</p>

<p>In at regular admissions without a likely</p>

<p>Asian American
First generation immigrant
New Jersey
SAT I (took it once): 800 M, 800 CR, 760 W (10 E)
SAT II: 790 Math II, 790 Chinese
Attend Selective Public Magnet -- within top 10 high schools of US according to US News</p>

<p>So um, up your SATs if you've got nothing else going for you.</p>

<p>If you are a "hooked" candidate, i.e. URM, recruited athlete, virtuoso, celebrity, super legacy, etc its possible to get in without 1450, 2150+ scores. If not, however, no amount of ECs will make up for a weak SAT. I've seen a few non-hooked valedictorians with great ECs and 1370ish scores get in, but that's about it, and its rare.</p>

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I heard that Dartmouth doesn't look at writing, is this true?

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<p>I just got a response back from Dartmouth admissions office and here it is:</p>

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Hi EliCash91,</p>

<p>Thanks for your question about testing. We do consider all parts of
the SAT Reasoning test. No one part is weighed more heavily than
another.</p>

<p>Good luck with your college search.

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<p>So the official word is that the writing section is indeed looked at.</p>