<p>Ifunaya-Good luck. My son was a ivy recruit for a couple of months. He is Student body pres, top ranked student at a US Dept of Ed Blue Ribbon school, lots of ECs and community svc, national awards, All-State athlete and player of the year, top 20 national stats, and a 31 ACT. No likely letter ever materialized.</p>
<p>@nocknock First off, URM status tends to be severely overestimated on this site. One of the smartest people I’ve ever known was a Hispanic, a very strong writer, had an amazing personality, and had fairly solid extracurriculars (all combined with a 35 ACT) and he got rejected from Yale, Penn, and Duke (i.e., not even waitlisted). It’s an anecdote, sure, but you can’t tell me for a second other people get admitted just for being of a different race. What’s much more important is your life story and what potential you can reveal to the admissions office in addition to what you already bring to the table.</p>
<p>Also, to the OP, being an athlete really only helps you if you’ve actually branched out to the school and contacted a coach or two; you can’t just expect someone to see something like “best tennis player in Oklahoma” and then assume you just hadn’t contacted any coaches to be recruited. If you aren’t being recruited, you can’t expect to benefit from being a recruited athlete. If you’ve done so, great! If not, you may seriously want to consider making a few phone calls just in case (though it’s very late to do so). Also, keep in mind that AP exams aren’t given that much weight in admissions since standardized college admittance exams are supposed to assess the rigor of your school. I know plenty of athletes at a school near my town with 23-26 ACTs and 3.7+ GPAs who are excited to get to play at a Division II level at schools that aren’t very rigorous or renowned. If you want high standards for yourself, that’s fine, but just tone down a bit on the “I’ll show you all!” mindset. This site is extraordinarily critical, and the worst thing you can do is come across as arrogant to a community of people with extraordinarily high expectations and motivation (having said that I probably sound more arrogant than most 
). Relax and don’t worry about getting into schools right now; at this point your college process is over for a few months.</p>
<p>@SkeezeyJ I dont think race has anything to do with how smart a person is. On the other hand, race does play a role in admissions and would only be beneficial to the OP (not stating that it will be the sole reason he’s accepted/denied). And for other bit was just saying low SAT scores for ivy league admits span the the various races and ethnic groups. Sorry if I offended if that’s the case.</p>
<p>The purpose of the SAT score is to determine how well you will do in college. Top schools are extremely rigorous, so they expect students with high SAT scores. Obviously, this tactic is not foolproof, but I’m willing to bet that ~85-90% of all applicants to top schools will have stronger scores than you, and these schools can only take 7-10% of the top students. I know it is hard to hear – I was in your position a year ago (and still am, in fact). My dream school was Stanford, and it is still in my top three but I have ventured out and found fantastic schools that would accept me regardless. You really need to consider your standing with other schools. A lot of my match schools would not accept an 1700 SAT, and even my safety schools tend to shoot higher than that. If “lower-tier” schools do not accept 1700 SATs, why would schools like Stanford or Columbia?</p>
<p>Also, I’m sorry but I wouldn’t start being snide over the fact that you are an URM. Personally, I would feel pretty bad if I took someone else’s well-deserved spot at a top school just because I was an URM.</p>
<p>I’m not offended at all, and I’m sorry if I came across that way. I was just trying to point out that CC may tend to overscore affirmative action in comparison to how much of an impact it makes when competing with the best within your own racial “pile” or however things are evaluated. I meant to emphasize that you may want to consider your approach as there’s a certain threshold for every applicant that allows him or her to be considered for the next phase of evaluation. If you’re white and have a 33 ACT, your academic strength is really indistinguishable from someone with a 34-36 (all can handle the courseload). I would argue that URMs still have to meet the same threshold everyone else does, and after that point diversity comes into play. It may just happen to work out that more of the applicant pool admitted for certain races falls on the lower end of the given range because the pools aren’t as large (giving less room for loads of well-qualified applicants). Probably students with higher test scores are stronger writers with more extracurriculars, so I’d say the correlation really lies in what a specific person accomplishes after the academic cutoff in relevance to applicants he/she is being compared to. Of course we’ll never know or there will probably be legal reparations, but that’s how I interpret the whole “separate stack for separate races” thing.</p>
<p>ifunanya: To me, right now, your attitude is more of a downfall than your scores. Your responses are really uncalled for, especially as users like T26E4 have been in the admissions game and therefore know better than you and I.</p>
<p>Besides, you make a big fit about how smart you are. I fail to see that through your poor punctuation and grammar.</p>
<p>Cheers anyway. I wish you the best in your application process.</p>
<p>A more important question you may want to consider is whether you can handle the academic rigor of an ivy league school, assuming you get accepted.</p>
<p>Good luck to you.</p>
<p>ifunanya has a 23/1660… Ivies are out of the question, I don’t care if you’re a first gen, urm, double legacy.</p>
<p>If you can’t get at least a 30 or so on the ACT, I’m led to wonder if you’d even be able to make it at an Ivy.</p>
<p>Lol there’s a difference from being cocky and replying confidently to rude statements obviously its a HIGH reach school but I applied and know that Sat are not everything or else i wouldn’t have posted this thread… lol Im just not dejected even if its a 5% chance ill take it and I really shouldn’t have posted this thread because no matter what anyone says I believe in myself and what I can accomplish at any school 
If I came off as cocky fine but i dont know any of you and you dont know me so dont get ur panties in a knot over some posts, but thx anyway for taking some time out of your lives to reply!</p>
<p>Oh its u again lol I agree with u… but i wont be put down by u! To all the others who gave reasonable responses thank you and I appreciate your luck I like to shoot for the stars thats how i’ve made so many accomplishments at my school! Again, if I was rude i apologize, maybe i was just offended by the virtual harsh tone of your voice but we are who we are :)</p>
<p>Wallrus you should think about becoming a critic when u grow up 
I think you would be “above average”</p>
<p>Bro,
I have a 3.65 GPA and 2350 SAT and I know that my chances at Ivys is probably less than 5 percent. </p>
<p>You have to understand, there are people with 3.6+ and 2100+ SATs that get rejected easily. There is no reason for them to accept you. I’m sorry but I hope that I can help you pick more realistic college choices.</p>
<p>Guys chill Stanford is not the one and only school i applied to :)</p>
<p>Nice sat score btw ^^ ;)</p>
<p>I think wallrus is just tired because you keep posting threads similar to this one, ifunanya. If you already know that your chances are low, then stop asking for other people’s opinions and rebutting them when they’re just stating their thoughts. Kudos to you for being optimistic and ambitious, but these threads just make you look like an attention whore. Also, I sense sarcasm in your compliment for tysonisasaint’s SAT score…</p>
<p>Alright, I’m done ranting. Let me ask you nicely - what are your safeties? Mind you, I’m just asking this out of curiosity.</p>
<p>Please do have a look at ‘will it happen to me?’ in chances thread by magpierobin</p>
<p>i know it won’t help but you will know how above average wallrus75 really is!</p>
<p>Arapat, sarcasm to Wallrus not to the other guy, it really is a good score… umm haha I have full ride to U of O and Lewis and Clark so far and the rest ill know in April I guess Your right though like I said I shouldn’t have posted this just a little stressed is all. I wouldn’t call it attention whore though cause I don’t really need attention from virtual people i don’t know… thats a weird way to get attention lol Um, I felt like the way Wallrus has repeatedly stalked my posts and responded unpleasantly calling me “pathetic” is what lead to my heated response other than that like I said to him he doesn’t know me so who cares!</p>
<p>At drexter… I don’t really care as far as I know he reminds me of this guy in my A.P. calc class who corrects the teacher and has a horrible personality… but then again Idk him maybe hes a cool guy and it is how I perceived his statement at the moment online… But again i’m over it ;)</p>
<p>@ifunanya</p>
<p>these are the guys are some of those who says all the time ‘it is impossible’ </p>
<p>I saw that that girl had a 2360 SAT and 4.0 GPA </p>
<p>and some good ECA(leadership position at 3 club).</p>
<p>But said no chance at all. Hahaha. No matter how well you are he and some other people are going to say that there is no chance and don’t apply:-D</p>
<p>He is so awesome that he doesn’t even know that there are 6 need blind college in US. </p>
<p>As far as I believe, these comments don’t matter. Even those perfect GPA and SAT score owner have 35% chance and why is that? And sometimes some people under 2000 get admitted.
Why?</p>
<p>Cause those who are admitted believe that, they are themselves despite they have weakness and strength it is the thing what is important…</p>