lower SAT=acceptance higher SAT=deferred?

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<p>I know people have discussed this already, but why does it seem people with low-ish SAT scores are getting accepted to Ivy League colleges while people with higher SATs aren't? I don't see much disparity in ECs/rank, and I don't think people with high SATs write crappy essays. ***? Maybe a few people are lying?</p>

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<p>I highly doubt the majority of people make up their scores for sympathy, highly doubt it</p>

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<p>People with lower SATs (like myself, bwahaha) tend to have more of a life. It's hard, though not impossible, to get a 2400 with a life.</p>

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<p>I'm not saying 2260 is low, but there a plenty of applicants with higher scores. When I looked at the ED results for other colleges a lot of people with scores in the mid-2300s are being rejected.</p>

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<p>i hope it's true, cuz then i'll be shipped over to new haven.</p>

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<p>in the case of EA, it may simply be yield protection.</p>

<p>for binding schools, it sure as hell beats me. perhaps its recognition bias (like the ones deferred with mid 2300 sat scores jump at you the same way the ones with mid 2100s and were accepted).</p>

<p>in all honesty, a 2100 is within most colleges 25th-75th split and i doubt the SAT matters much if at all (in terms of a fifty or even 100 point spread) once an application gets to committee. i think that this is where most CCers (given their high stats) meet their fate, rather than the first reads which they can get past based on stats.</p>

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<p>If you are implying that there is negative correlation between SAT score and acceptance rate, you are wrong. Bottom line</p>

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<p>I'm not... I was just looking at all the posts for other ivies and a lot of good SAT scorers weren't accepted.</p>

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<p>What, out of the people on this website?...who wouldn't dare to admit that they got less than a 2100?</p>

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<p>southeasttitan: uhm, i don't think that is necessarily true! and i personally take offense to that :P i think number of ap's/gpa would preclude having a life more than sat score.</p>

<p>and correlation does not indicate causation -- if that correlation even exists! i'm highly doubtful that the adcoms think, "oh, that person got a 2000, better accept him!" and "oh no, another 2400, we need to defer her."</p>

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<p>I don't think there is a correlation either. I just have no idea what's happening!</p>

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<p>I think the cause of the panic is that there is not a +1.0 correlation between SAT scores and acceptance. Most of the people who are accepted have excellent SAT scores, if not by CC standards (I'm talking 2150-2200+). I think the implication of that is that, past a certain minimum standard for scores, the Ivies are looking beyond numbers for admission this year.</p>

<p>...all I can say is, thank <insert deity="" of="" choice="" here="">, because I have better things to do than retake the SAT until I get 2350+. >.<</insert></p>

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<p>Standardized test scores do matter, but only to a degree.</p>

<p>After you pass a certain benchmark of say 32 or 2100, there really isn't much of a difference between higher and lower scores. This is when other factors, such as extracurriculars, essays, and recommendations really come into play. The portion of the SCEA who have a whisper of hope in getting in are so similar statistically that there is no other way.</p>

<p>Yale is looking for people who want Yale for Yale, not it's name or a safety in case they didn't get into Harvard or Princeton. They are looking for individuals who will be comfortable in the student body and who will contribute to student life there, not just enjoy it.</p>

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<p>insert Zeus/Allah, can't decide</p>

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<p>I think there might be a lurking variable here: the presence of a hook. It's possible that a hook makes a bigger difference than SAT scores, and that hooked applicants tend to have lower scores. Thus, more people with lower scores getting in.</p>

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<p>We also can't get a complete view of an applicant just based on CC stats, even with the EC descriptions...</p>

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<p>"After you pass a certain benchmark of say 32 or 2100, there really isn't much of a difference between higher and lower scores."</p>

<p>while i'd like to agree, i can't quite agree.... from what i've heard, a 33+ and a 2200+ is what is really desired... and if you do have a perfect 2400 along with outstanding ECs, you have a higher chance of getting in... i'm going to use princeton as an example... princeton accepts 50% of perfect, single-sitting 2400s and only 25% of a score like a 2300 or something like that.... granted, a lot more people have 2300s than 2400s, so there would be more variation with ECs and whatnot among those with 2300s.... but if you have a 2400, you pretty much have a 50/50 shot to a lot of the Ivy's (supposedly, of course... this isn't always the case)</p>

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<p>^ i reallyyy hope that's true >< this is making me so nervous
where did you hear that? i thought princeton only accepted like 30% of 2400's</p>

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<p>^^ here is what someone posted on the princeton forum:</p>

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According to our school GC the following seems to be the %
SAT1 - %
2400 - 50
1600(M & CR)/2350+ - 45
1600(M & CR)/2300+ - 40
2350+ - 29
2300+ - 25</p>

<p>First three %ages are for single sitting scores; for superscore the last %ages apply.</p>

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<p>o.O Well I didn't want to go to Princeton anyway... :(</p>