<p>If I'm correct, UChicago students and Northwestern students have somewhat of a rivalry going on. How do UChicago students view Loyola Chicago Students?</p>
<p>The "rivalry" only exists in any real form on CC. The schools do not attract similar students, nor do they compete in sports, and the undergraduate size of NU is much bigger than Chicago's.</p>
<p>Chicago's more traditional rival is Wash U, but I wonder how many current students know that such a rivalry is supposed to exist or even care about it. We played them at our homecoming. Let's not talk about what happened.</p>
<p>Loyola Chicago isn't in Chicago's range academically, so I don't think there's a rivalry. Loyola also has a religious affiliation and is much more geared towards pre-professional studies (communication, education, etc.). If Chicago's going to call another school "stupid," it's not going to be LUC-- it will most likely be a school like Columbia or Brown.</p>
<p>Two more things about the Loyola/UChicago relationship-- a handful of students from Loyola transfer to UChicago every year, and there are quite a few administrators who did their undergrad at Loyola.</p>
<p>To give you an idea of how different the schools are (data from collegeboard.com)</p>
<p>Loyola University Chicago
--9,725 undergraduates, 4, 026 graduate students
--77% acceptance rate
-- M, CR, W midranges are all 520-630 ish, ACT 23-28
-- most popular major is business/marketing (21%)
-- Division I Basketball, Cross-Country, Golf, Soccer, Volleyball</p>
<p>University of Chicago
-- 4,807 undergrads, 5,834 grad students
-- 38% admittance rate
-- M midrange 650-760, CR midrange 670-770, ACT midrange 28-33
-- Most popular major: "social sciences," 36%
-- Division III sports</p>
<p>There is a bit of a rivalry between Northwestern and Chicago.</p>
<p>Both are at the same level academically, so that throws the students into the same ring. From there, the subtle differences come into play and are exaggerated by the other side: the South Side of Chicago versus Evanston; theoretical knowledge versus pre-professional focus; nerdy/intellectual versus cool/athletic/well-rounded. </p>
<p>In truth, the students aren't all that different. I know a number of Chicago students who applied to Northwestern, and I imagine there are a number of Northwestern students who applied to Chicago. A rivalry is created from small differences when there are a lot of big similarities in place to begin with. </p>
<p>There isn't a rivalry at all between Loyola and UChicago since, as Unalove mentioned, they are generally not thought of on the same academic level. The two schools don't really have much in common that connects them besides both being in Chicago--and there are a lot of schools in Chicago.</p>
<p>Northwestern students knife Chicago students! I've seen it happen.</p>
<p>My cousin goes to NW. He says there is a rivalry. A bloody one that dates back to the 15th century.</p>
<p>Not as big as OSU and UM.</p>
<p>Lol...loyola's rivalry is with depaul.</p>
<p>Fortunately for us U of Cers, the kids up at Northwestern are so far from the actual center of downtown that we don't have much contact with them... even when we leave our hyde park bubble. ;)</p>
<p>loyola who?</p>
<p>Unless you go clubbing on Gold Coast or know someone directly at NU, the only time you will ever meet people from there is through work, a charity walk or something like that. It is really far away if you don't have a car, and NU students go into downtown far less since the public transportation is not as reliable. Switching trains in the middle of elevated tracks during the dead of winter is a major downer.</p>
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<p>LOL, if by SO FAR you mean about a whopping 5 miles further from the actual center of downtown than UChicago, then yeah, I guess it is :rolleyes:</p>
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NU students go into downtown far less since the public transportation is not as reliable.
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<p>hahaha, besides the fact that Evanston also has a Metra Rail, you do know that CTA named it the PURPLE Line for a reason, right? </p>
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<p>Thats why CTA offers this little thing called the Purple Line EXPRESS ;)</p>
<p>The big problem that NU students voiced, when we visited, was that the trains from downtown to campus didn't run late enough in the evening (night). The purple line doesn't run after midnight. <a href="http://www.transitchicago.com/maps/rail/rail.html%5B/url%5D">http://www.transitchicago.com/maps/rail/rail.html</a></p>
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The big problem that NU students voiced, when we visited, was that the trains from downtown to campus didn't run late enough in the evening (night). The purple line doesn't run after midnight.
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<p>Before midnight: Red Line to Howard >>> transfer to Purple Line</p>
<p>After midnight: Red Line to Howard >>> transfer to taxi cab (about a two to three minute ride to NU campus)</p>
<p>This takes forever. I looked it up on the CTA website to make sure I was not screwing it up when I did it myself. If you leave downtown at 11 PM on a Saturday, it will take you a minimum of one hour to up to an hour and a half to get back from somewhere in the loop to Evanston. That is making the <em>big</em> presumption that the trains are running on time in bad weather, which is like five months out of the school year. </p>
<p>Dropping $10 on a taxi is not exactly enjoyable either, especially if you do it both ways to Howard, but I could see it working if you are going out in a group. I presume they hang around the station. </p>
<p>It is not like the school is isolated. But it is hardly a breeze to rely on the public transportation system. It is kind of a downer if you are going to go out for one evening a week and spend two to three hours on a train to cover 20 miles in total. On the other hand, there is so much more to do in Evanston off campus that it seems to compensate. It is ridiculous that to see a normal movie or go to a decent restaurant at UChicago you need to go downtown.</p>
<p>^^ At the same time, though, I wanted an urban school, so I like the fact that I'm always downtown for restaurants, movies, shopping, etc.</p>
<p>When I visited Northwestern and sat in on the information session, I was a little miffed at how they billed themselves as a Chicago school. "This isn't Chicago, this is Evanston!" I wanted to say. Evanston has merits of its own, of course, but I would venture to say that one's relationship to "the city" is much more intimate at Chicago, whether one likes it or not.</p>
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<p>Yeah, but when youre with friends who cares. :) </p>
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If you leave downtown at 11 PM on a Saturday, it will take you a minimum of one hour to up to an hour and a half to get back from somewhere in the loop to Evanston.
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<p>Actually, it is much closer to 45 minutes to an hour from the North Loop area. You can practically get from Midway Airport to Evanston in an hour and a half! </p>
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That is making the <em>big</em> presumption that the trains are running on time in bad weather, which is like five months out of the school year.
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<p>True, they do get backed up every once in a while, but in my experience it has not usually been because of weather. More like something or someone falls in front of the train. </p>
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But it is hardly a breeze to rely on the public transportation system.
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<p>I agree with the breeze part. But I dont know anywhere in America where public transportation is not to some extent a pain in the ass. </p>
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It is ridiculous that to see a normal movie or go to a decent restaurant at UChicago you need to go downtown.
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<p>That is ridiculous, Hyde Park seems like its big enough to support at least one movie theatre.</p>
<p>Aha, but it does not have one. It may seem ridiculous, but it's true. We don't have our own movie theater in the neighborhood. That's why I see everybody and their mother at AMC River East.</p>
<p>(Not if you don't count Doc Films, the campus film society, which doesn't show movies that are in theaters).</p>
<p>I always think that big box stores and chain stores could make a killing here, catering to the UChicago population. There are a lot of movements to bring a Trader Joe's to Hyde Park and to amp up our retail-ness a little bit. It seems so out of character with the U. of C., though, now that I think of it-- there are bookstores aplenty, and that's about it.</p>
<p>To be fair Unalove, Doc does show movies that have been in theatres - typically a few months later. However, we also hold premiers of movies (usually at least one to two per quarter) that are not yet out in theatres...</p>
<p>Although I have to say, I wouldn't understand why a NW student would want to go to Midway Airport, even if it's "only 45 minutes" away (which is <em>so</em> not true - besides 3 and a half years at the U of C I lived in Chicago for 18...). I mean, O'hare is much closer, and you know, generally the preferred airport for people out in the suburbs.</p>
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I always think that big box stores and chain stores could make a killing here, catering to the UChicago population. There are a lot of movements to bring a Trader Joe's to Hyde Park and to amp up our retail-ness a little bit. It seems so out of character with the U. of C., though, now that I think of it-- there are bookstores aplenty, and that's about it.
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<p>hahahaha, be careful what you wish for! First its a Trader Joes, then its a Gap, then Banana Republic and then before you know it Hyde Park will be like (gasp!) Evanston ;)</p>
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Although I have to say, I wouldn't understand why a NW student would want to go to Midway Airport, even if it's "only 45 minutes" away (which is <em>so</em> not true - besides 3 and a half years at the U of C I lived in Chicago for 18...). I mean, O'hare is much closer, and you know, generally the preferred airport for people out in the suburbs.
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<p>Um, I dont know if that was directed at me, but if so I never said Midway Airport was only 45 minutes away from Evanston, I said it was about an hour and a half by CTA. And I can think of a big reason why a NU student would want to fly out of Midway Airport: Southwest Airlines.</p>
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This takes forever. I looked it up on the CTA website to make sure I was not screwing it up when I did it myself. If you leave downtown at 11 PM on a Saturday, it will take you a minimum of one hour to up to an hour and a half to get back from somewhere in the loop to Evanston.
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<p>What's in downtown at 11PM? A lot of areas in the financial district are DEAD at night or during weekends. Rush/Division have bars but they are more touristy and not really tailored to students anyway. Areas in the north like Lakeview, Lincoln Park, New Chinatown are better areas for college students to hangout and since they are residential neighborhoods, there are more than just bars. There are more people walking around in Lakeview than downtown late at night.</p>
<p>Downtown is great during the day if you wanna visit museums, shop, and do sightseeing. But at night, I'd take uptown over it.</p>
<p>The CTA takes more than 45 minutes late at night. You can look up the schedule for yourself. </p>
<p>Many 9 PM Movies get out around 11 PM. Most people who go to clubs / bars definitely leave after 11 PM. These are the two major downtown draws for students save shopping and dining, which yes, do close shop fairly early. </p>
<p>I hear a lot about the other neighborhoods in Chicago, but to be honest unless you are into Indie music / cheap ethnic food, there is not a whole hell of a lot to do in them. I went to two and found neither to be worth the commute. I could have done the same thing in Hyde Park. Indeed, you can find the same thing around nearly every college campus. </p>
<p>I am all in favor of a big box store, preferably Wal*Mart, but it is not going to happen without a major fight. If it were centrally located it would drive out too many neighborhood stores (which is of course, is the unspoken desire of the University). Coop and Hyde Park Produce would be easy kills. ACE hardware and Office Depot I think would have a hard time relying on just selling esoteric things like sandblasters and fax machines. Right now they push a lot of hammers and ink cartridges to stay solvent, which a big box could do much cheaper with a one stop shopping advantage in addition. But I think the two bigger issues would be parking lot growth pushing out some existing low income housing, as well as the sob stories of current employees who get axed.</p>
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<p>Alright, fine. If you looked it up, more than 45 minutes it is. ;) </p>
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I hear a lot about the other neighborhoods in Chicago, but to be honest unless you are into Indie music / cheap ethnic food, there is not a whole hell of a lot to do in them. I went to two and found neither to be worth the commute.
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<p>LOL, I love how you just summed up the vast array of incredibly diverse neighborhoods in the nations third largest city with indie music and cheap ethnic food. Wow, just wow. Im assuming by your location that you no longer live in Chicago, which is unfortunate, because apparently you missed out on a lot when you lived in the area.</p>