Lying

<p>....ahh crap</p>

<p>you also get screwed if someone from your school applies to the same place and puts down the same position - that's an instant red flag</p>

<p>yes, but i'm sure no one will apply there from my school</p>

<p>okay....you say that you are not planning to lie on the app, and then you keep on giving these scenarios (ie: previous post), which are a little suspicious. Bottom line: don't resort to lying on apps, regardless of whether other ppl from school will apply/you think you might get away with it/ etc etc. it's unpredictable, and you very well might be caught. Little exaggerations, I guess, should be fine, but bigger things such as leadership positions, for example, are taken more note of, and more prone to checking. In the end, it's a individual decision. Like someone already posted before, if you're confident enough, then you're fine, but if you're not, and you're willing to take the risk, then do it, and IF the triumph comes, I'll bet it's gonna be a little damper. Write what you did, and if that doesn't do it, it's not the end of the world.</p>

<p>so you are basically planning to lie right? litlte exagerrations won't be caught, like hours or weeks. But significant things like big awards will be. And it's sad that you are actually asking.</p>

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how would they find out if you "exaggerate" a captain position/founder position for school club?

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for example, after he student claims to be the captain if the "X" team after 3 years on the varsity one of the writers of a recommendation, trying to help, writes something like ... the student is a quiet leader, for example, while not the captain of the "X" team grew into a real leader on the team in his two years on varsity. An attempt in a recommendation to help you just exposed the lie. The application materials should all fit together ... lies can become clear as all the pieces come together and do not fit quite right.</p>

<p>i didn't have crazy extracurriculars/leadership to make you puke in my application (although obviously i had enough)... i was honest and my resume showed that i am passionate about a few things that benefit the community and its gratifying knowing that i got in on legitimate credentials. lying is just low... plus penn's application doesn't even ask you how many weeks a year you did your activities.</p>

<p>If you lie about something and get caught, you can get kicked out of the school, or even have your diploma rescinded if you are caught after graduating. These things have happened, rarely, but they have. In order to let everyone know how seriously they consider truth on the apps, any transgressor are seriously punished. Not a good idea at all, as you will be looking over your shoulder your entire life.</p>

<p>umm... how about just exaggerating the weeks per year? I mean my school just stopped all EC's for like 10 weeks so we just have a BIG empty gap there.... exagerrating by like 5~10 weeks; serious?</p>

<p>lol, no</p>

<p>.......</p>

<p>how does the adcom verify our ECs and employment anyway??</p>

<p>phone to guidance counselor.</p>

<p>how would our guidance counselor know?</p>

<p>well, they are Supposed to know, aren't they?</p>

<p>what happens to people who lie to their guidance counsellors then?</p>