Man the hoses!

<p>Or is that "woman the hoses" ?</p>

<p>'Twould seem damage control or PR has begun ...</p>

<p>The following article will be in TRIDENT dtd August 31, 2007. </p>

<p>New Brigade Meal Policy Focuses on Unit Cohesion
By MCC(SW) Misty Trent</p>

<p>Just as Navy officers mess together in the ship's wardroom underway, the
Brigade of Midshipmen now attend 15 mandatory meals together each week,
thanks to a recent Naval Academy policy change designed to better
prepare Midshipmen for the realities of life as a junior officer.</p>

<p>Under the new mandatory meal policy, the Brigade eats all meals together
starting with Sunday dinner, through noon meal on Friday. This new
program mirrors the way officers dine in wardrooms throughout the fleet.</p>

<p>"Eating together on the mess decks and in the wardrooms helps officers,
Sailors and Marines develop and maintain relationships and unit
cohesiveness," said Commandant of Midshipmen Capt. Margaret Klein.</p>

<p>"It's about unit cohesion," agreed Lt. Cmdr. Debra Rogers, Midshipman
Food Services Officer. "In the battlefield, you have to be able to
understand what the other person is going to do. If you know someone in
your division gets nervous in certain situations, you know to cover that
person when they need help. You get to know each other so intimately it
saves lives out there."</p>

<p>According to Rogers, some of the benefits of the new meal policy may not
be obvious right away, but she said it will pay dividends in the long
run.</p>

<p>"Intrusive leadership works," said Rogers, a prior enlisted Culinary
Specialist. "You need to know daily what your troops are doing - for
training, on liberty, with their family - that all affects the mission.
When one troop has problems, the mission could be compromised."</p>

<p>Rogers explained that same concept applies within the brigade as well.
When the Midshipmen share meals, it's also an opportunity to better get
to know each other, because it's common practice for people to talk more
freely around the dinner table.</p>

<p>"Midshipmen are under a lot of pressure here, so they keep things in,"
Rogers said. "But when you start asking unrelated questions, like 'Did
you watch the football game last night?', they'll open up. If you sit
back and listen, they'll tell you things they would never say if you
confronted them directly."</p>

<p>It's been more than ten years since the Naval Academy required all
Midshipmen to attend 15 mandatory meals, and the change has presented
its own challenges. Rogers compared the situation to a ship sailing for
the Straits of Gibralter, and then being ordered to change course to the
Suez Canal, saying that the role of officers and senior enlisted is to
support and implement changes in policy that may not always be
understood.</p>

<p>"You have to be a stakeholder in the new policy," said Rogers. "If the
commanding officer promulgates new policy, and you tell your troops you
don't agree with it, you start a domino effect."</p>

<p>Along with the new mandatory meal policy, Midshipman Food Services is
unveiling a new menu aimed at providing Midshipmen with a wider variety
of healthy choices, shifting the focus from fried foods to baked. While
King Hall will still have plenty of "fun" food, the goal is to ensure
the Midshipmen have the proper sustenance for their high metabolism.
Rogers showed two pre-packaged bowls of cereal of equal size and
portion. The first bowl was 230 calories with 26 grams of sugar. The
second bowl, part of the new menu, was 170 calories and 6 grams of
sugar.</p>

<p>"I'm a certified health nut," Rogers explained. "Kids like pizza, but
when you're on the field, that's not going to sustain you." </p>

<p>In addition to providing the Brigade a healthier menu, Rogers also plans
to implement four-course Sunday dinners that include soup, salad, a main
course, and dessert.</p>

<p>"Food is always a morale issue," she explained. "Whether you're in the
field or on a ship, eating an MRE or at a steel beach picnic. Food is
home. When you're away from home, that's all you have."</p>

<p>Rogers and her staff are responsible for ensuring the Brigade eat
quality, healthy meals on a very strict budget, just $6.60 per
Midshipman per day. She ensures that athletes have properly coordinated
meals based on specific dietary needs. She has 130 employees who serve
on the deck, and another 100 employees doing the preparation and cooking
behind the scenes. The first crew arrives at 2:45 a.m. to begin
preparation for the 7 a.m. breakfast.</p>

<p>It's a job she takes very seriously, and she wants to ensure any
problems are addressed immediately. According to Rogers, there was a
problem recently with bad milk. Although the carton indicated the milk
was within its specified dates, there were several complaints. Rogers
had the milk pulled from the tables and replaced with fresh milk. She
then called the manufacturer and addressed the issue.</p>

<p>According to Rogers, while she and her staff are working diligently to
ensure quality food and quality service for the Midshipmen, she needs
leaders within the Brigade to bring potential problems to her attention
and monitor the situation during mealtimes. </p>

<p>"Dinner is served family-style, so you have to say, 'I've taken my
ration, let me pass it on.' Not everyone does that," Rogers explained.
"That's where the Squad leader needs to come in and take control and
ensure everyone gets their portion. That's the kind of leadership we
need at every table."</p>

<p>If squad leaders see insufficient or poor quality food at the tables, it
is their responsibility within to bring it up the chain of command.
Just as the division officers look after their Sailors in the Fleet, the
squad leaders must ensure their subordinates are taken care of and
properly prepared to carry out the mission.</p>

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<p>My daughter mentioned the new food changes were to start with the next menu. She also said that her table had sandwiches last night and their Sandwich Rolls were Hard frozen. Hoping for improvements soon!</p>

<p>At the JV football game last night my Varsity football Mids were in the stands and said they were supposed to have leatball subs but they only got meatballs. No bread or sides. Just meatballs and bug juice. Sounds very healthy for Mids getting ready for the big game Friday. Asked my JV football Mid what he had and he said the JV team got lasagna before the game because the Coaches were becoming upset with the food situation.</p>

<p>WP- Thank you for the post.
I was going to let these lastest occurances "pass quietly into the night"...
but this has negated that option.</p>

<p>Forget the hoses- NO amount of "PR" is going to cover this BS.</p>

<p>Fact: Frozen sandwiches reported by many tables. Apparently wide-spread.
Fact: Supe and Dant inspected Dalghren during meal service.<br>
Fact: Food supply inadequate. 1/2 of Dalghren not served.
Fact: Mids instructed to remain seated.
Fact: served 25 minutes later.
Fact: served pasta. No sauce. Arrived at table cold and in "one ball."
Fact: Supe left. (opinion: "Briskly.")</p>

<p>
[quote]
"Food is always a morale issue," she explained. "Whether you're in the
field or on a ship, eating an MRE or at a steel beach picnic. Food is
home. When you're away from home, that's all you have."

[/quote]
</p>

<p>Exactly. Which is EXACTLY WHY IT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED....YESTERDAY. </p>

<p>
[quote]

"Dinner is served family-style, so you have to say, 'I've taken my
ration, let me pass it on.' Not everyone does that," Rogers explained.
"That's where the Squad leader needs to come in and take control and
ensure everyone gets their portion. That's the kind of leadership we
need at every table."

[/quote]
</p>

<p>Even if true- that may account for an "individual table." NOT 1/2 OF THE DINING HALL.</p>

<p>But instead of ADDRESSING THE PROBLEM, let's BLAME IT ON THE MIDSHIPMEN who "take more than their share." Better yet, the SQUAD LEADERS who don't "take control [to] ensure everyone gets their portion." Perhaps they should be provided with food scales so that they can RATION IT OUT EQUITABLY. And heavens forbid anyone asks, "Please, Sir, may I have more?" </p>

<p>ACCOUNTABILITY. AND IF YOU CAN'T FIX IT, GET SOMEONE IN THAT CAN. NO MORE EXCUSES.</p>

<p>
[quote]
230 calories with 26 grams of sugar. The
second bowl, part of the new menu, was 170 calories and 6 grams of
sugar.

[/quote]
</p>

<p>I would like to remind this self-proclaimed "food nut" that an UNSERVED TABLE HAS ZERO CALORIES. AND PASTA ALONE DOES NOT CONSTITUTE A BALANCED DIET, LET ALONE ADEQUATE NUTRITION, AND LEAST OF ALL FOR MIDSHIPMEN WHO ARE EXPENDING THE NUMBER OF Kcals THAT THEY DO ON ANY GIVEN DAY. </p>

<p>If we did this to our patient population we would have the DOH on our backs for WILLFUL NEGLECT.</p>

<p>I suggest Ms. Rogers STOP WORRYING ABOUT THE DARN SUGAR AND THE PIZZA AND GET THIS PROBLEM RESOLVED ONCE AND FOR ALL. NO MORE EXCUSES.</p>

<p>
[quote]

If squad leaders see insufficient or poor quality food at the tables, it
is their responsibility within to bring it up the chain of command.

[/quote]
</p>

<p>THEY DID. REPEATEDLY. STARTING ON DAY 3! THIS IS DAY 17!<br>
WHAT IS WRONG WITH THIS PICTURE???!!!!!!!!!! </p>

<p>
[quote]
Just as the division officers look after their Sailors in the Fleet, the
squad leaders must ensure their subordinates are taken care of and
properly prepared to carry out the mission.

[/quote]
</p>

<p>THEY DID. The squads have been served from the bottom-up. The Firsties have been the last to be seated- the last to be served- AND THE LAST TO EAT. They managed the best they could with the RESOURCES they were given. THE PROBLEM IS THAT THE RESOURCES WERE, AND CONTINUE TO BE INADEQUATE. </p>

<p>INSTEAD OF POINTING FINGERS at the VICTIMS,
IDENTIFY THE ROOT CAUSE.
AND GET IT FIXED. </p>

<p>And the second "issue" to address is WHO IS WATCHING OVER THIS DEBACLE and HOW COME IT IS STILL BEING PERMITTED TO CONTINUE????? </p>

<p>It is becoming increasing obvious where this problem rests!</p>

<p>
[quote]

It's a job she takes very seriously, and she wants to ensure any
problems are addressed immediately

[/quote]
</p>

<p>Fact: THIS IS DAY SEVENTEEN! "Immediate" is "unseperated by anything else." In my book, there have now been 15 DAYS OF SEPERATION between "IDENTIFICATION" and "RESOLUTION".... only we HAVEN'T EVEN GOTTEN TO THE RESOLUTION YET. For that we still have T-5 Days and counting!</p>

<p>Naptown-
Can fully appreciate the frustration on the part of the coaches.
Will add to that the athletes. And the midshipmen.
And you can add my name to that growing list.</p>

<p>9/3 cannot come fast enough.</p>

<p>THIS "SPIN" OF THE PROBLEM IS NOT ONLY INSULTING, IT IS OUTRAGEOUS AND IRRESPONSIBLE.</p>

<p>I can only see one solution to this problem:</p>

<p>navy2010, nativetexan, bill etc..... you all need to get on the next flight to Baltimore. Go down to the Yard, march into the Supe office and demand action. What are you waiting for???????</p>

<p>Right.</p>

<p>My question to you is why you did not include yourself in the "one solution to this problem???!!!!"
And therein lies some of the problem- because there are only 3 options that I can see...
1. Be a part of the solution
2. Be a part of the problem
3. Sit on the sidelines and do nothing but volunteer others to do what you will not do yourself.</p>

<p>I have not called for a "call to action."
I have encouraged my mid- from day 3- to "work within the system."
"trust the system"...."try again"......"be patient".....
I have tried to allow the system to "work itself out"- as advised by well-meaning alumni.</p>

<p>I waited for the tables to be served.
Then I waited for the quantity to be addressed.
I haven't even ventured into waiting for the quality to improve.
The current problem is that I am right back at square one.</p>

<p>So here it is- 17 days later- and the waiting continues for the ADMINISTRATION of the UNITED STATES NAVAL ACADEMY to GET HIS SHIP IN ORDER. </p>

<p>This is his watch.
And while I take no issue with the "intent," the execution has been deplorable. </p>

<p>9/3... that is the date the administration has set.
Following that, the Board of Visitors meet on the yard.
All options remain open.
And PA is a lot closer than NY....if you need a ride, let me know.</p>

<p>JustaMomof4

[quote]
I can only see one solution to this problem:</p>

<p>navy2010, nativetexan, bill etc..... you all need to get on the next flight to Baltimore. Go down to the Yard, march into the Supe office and demand action. What are you waiting for???????

[/quote]
</p>

<p>wrong! the solution JustaMomof4 is to stop the baiting on this forum and let those with different opinions post them too. We all come from different backgrounds. State you opinion, listen to others, evaluate and reply. Maybe I don't like what you are saying and you probably don't like what I am saying but the fact is we all have a right to post and do so because all of us have a vested interest in USNA. </p>

<p>To make needless comments about certain members getting on a plane and demanding action just because you do not like their opinions serves no purpose.</p>

<p>Apparently there is also a letter from Captain Klein that is being sent to the parents that "compliments" the article in the Trident. Personally this all is more of the same. Just my opinion so let the cannon balls start flying...</p>

<p>I have a problem with the food service director laying blame at the feet of the squad leaders. My son is a squad leader and consistantly doesn't get food because make sure his squad eats first. Seems to me that's more in-line with being a leader...(just my opinion).</p>

<p>ladies-</p>

<p>thank you.
your opinions are welcomed, and appreciated.</p>

<p>


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<p>As a WP mom-to-be, JAM04 belongs on the sideline. I have to think that her call to action was slightly tongue in cheek. 2010, as far as being a part of the problem or being a part of the solution, I think she might have been suggesting that you provide a solution in that, in a lot of readers opinions, the constant negativism which has been posted here is indeed more a part of the problem than helping to form any solution. While a trip to the Supts office might be extreme, it might help solve things, especially in the minds of some of the posters here on this thread. I was actually on the verge of making the same suggestion.</p>

<p>


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<p>I don't think the FSO is "laying blame" at all. Who better than the squad leader to ensure proper quality and correct quantity? The final quality assurance. How is one a leader by accepting improper quality and incorrect quantity? Tell him not to settle for sacrifice but to be more proactive. Things will get fixed.</p>

<p>USNA69-
Your comments are appreciated.
I trusted in a system that failed- big time-on this issue.</p>

<p>You may hold to a different opinion, which is your perogative.
If I thought for one minute my marching into the Supes office would help - and NOT have negative ramifications for my Mid, it would have been done.</p>

<p>I wish to add no more fuel to this fire. My final comment is that your suggestion that the squad leaders should have/could have done more, misses the mark- in their defense, they did- many times over the past 17 days. </p>

<p>We will never be sure if the Supes visit to Dalghren was the result of the COC working, or the problem hitting the BS. Frankly, I don't care. What we do know is that it was only after the Supe's inspection of Dalghren first hand, with half the tables left unserved, that things started to be addressed. That it took 17 days is unfortunate.</p>

<p>What was noted following that visit:
-the quantity of food has increased
-all tables are being served
-Drydock "restrictions" have been ammended.
-A change in food service has been announced.</p>

<p>I have to respectively disagree with you on your above post. I am of the same opinion as atrmom in that the FSO is very much laying the blame squarely at the feet of the squad leaders. And while I appreciate hindsight is 20:20, the writing was on the wall for this one- and it sits squarely with those that failed to "plan and execute" that which was "envisioned and implimented." IMO.</p>

<p>The new food service starts today. I am "trusting" it resolves the need for any further discussion.</p>

<p>2010 ..

[quote]
If I thought for one minute my marching into the Supes office would help - and NOT have negative ramifications for my Mid, it would have been done.

[/quote]
</p>

<p>I respectively agree with your observation. Go girl.</p>

<p>jk,jk ... honest. ;) </p>

<p>btw, did anyone have opportunity to hear the Supe when he was in Philly addressing parents, alumni last Friday?</p>

<p>"I don't think the FSO is "laying blame" at all. Who better than the squad leader to ensure proper quality and correct quantity?"</p>

<p>Umm, the FSO? I have to admit my first response to the article was also that it was a case of blame the victim. My son is more concerned about retaining honors violators than the food situation, though. Whatever. Only a few more months for me and mine.</p>

<p>FPW in 9 days! Yippee Skippee!</p>

<p>WP--</p>

<p>snicker, snicker, snicker. And I respectively agree with both of you, respectfully. :)</p>

<p>See.... hang around here long enough and we all get to respect each other!!!! :)</p>

<p>momof1- enjoy your FPW- well earned!!!! Savor every moment of it- and hope the skys above Annapolis are bright and sunny!!! Will be down there as well for Navy football.... and a good steak dinner out with our youngster!! ;) </p>

<p>(USNA69- ready to conceed that bottle of Merlot yet?? :) I have a bunch of moms waiting- you are more than welcome to join us! ;) )</p>

<p>Reading these food issue posts is upsetting. Talking with my mid (a female) she doesn't see a big problem for her. Basically she is like, 'Oh 1 chicken finger is fine. But the guys are hungry". She isn't much bothered by the food thing for herself anyway. What is crazy though is the amount of time this seems to be taking to resolve. I saw a report about our state's football program the other night. They toured with a player through their day and it included their food service. They had training table for lunch and dinner and you wouldn't believe the amount of food they had. (and quality). Also, the facilities were incredible including a lounge that would make a country club jealous, PS3 games, internet stations, couches, big screen TVs. etc. Our Navy guys have to suit up and play programs like these. And, while they don't need PS3 and all the fluff, they do need food. Crazy. </p>

<p>Hoping, with all of the other parents here that this problem is fixed and we can all move on. But I totally agree with those who are sick of the problem being blamed on the mids.</p>

<p>


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<p>Not yet. Gotta hear an "official excuse" first. I have heard officially that there were a few problems but no reason why.</p>

<p>Hey Captain Klein has given the "official exuse" in an interview. </p>

<p>Delaware Online <a href="http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/M/MD_NAVAL_ACADEMY_FOOD_MDOL-?SITE=DEWIL&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/M/MD_NAVAL_ACADEMY_FOOD_MDOL-?SITE=DEWIL&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>
[quote]
Capt. Margaret Klein, commandant of midshipmen, acknowledged that the Naval Academy has been caught off guard by the new food policy. Before this year, midshipmen were required to eat in the dining hall only six meals per week. The change means the school went from providing a minimum of 26,400 meals a week to 66,000.

[/quote]
</p>

<p>I still don't quite understand how The Academy was "caught off guard" when the Academy Administration i.e. Captain Klein gave the order but if she says she was then so be it.</p>

<p>thinking that bottle is going navy2010's way :)</p>

<p>^^^^^^^When we hear the reason they were caught off guard, we will all know whether or not I owe 2010 a bottle of merlot.</p>