<p>Harvard has a disproportionate number of rhode scholars because it affiliated itself with rhodes winnners in their graduate school (like this year) and because radcliffe could also nominate in addition to harvard college for many years until it dissolved.</p>
<p>Anyway, great year for yale, trending up quit a bit. No we just need to fire the football coach and all will be righted.</p>
<p>You never proved that radcliffe didn't have nominations. The first radcliffe winner was in 1976, as you said, a year after the ATHLETIC departments between harvard and radcliffe merged. Radcliffe dissolved as a college (and its ability to nominate) in 1999(?). 20+ years of nominations, no? Every year you previously listed was also misleading because you also included FOREIGN Rhodes which is a completely different and MUCH EASIER process. Whatever the case, I did not lie and I would appreciate you tone down your rhetoric, lest you get too excited for your own health old man. </p>
<p>As for the claim that Harvard (rightly or wrongly) affiliates itself to a larger extent than Yale with graduate students who have won the rhodes (from nominations from their undergraduate institutions), that was in the provided link by goHYPS previously. He/She raised that point, not me.</p>
<p>You are simply making stuff up. You chronically lie about these matters even when several others have set you straight. Why do you find it so important to do this?</p>
<p>Hey Crimsonbulldog, I'm hoping to get into any of these schools! I just found that Wikipedia article and gave the link. Wasn't making any point. But thanks.</p>
<p>Yale Students Win Three Rhodes and
Five Marshall ScholarshipsThis year Yale seniors won three Rhodes and five Marshall Scholarships, two of the most coveted academic awards for study in Britain.</p>
<p>Nathan Herring, Jessica E. Leight and Chelsea E. Purvis won three of the seven Rhodes Scholarships awarded to Ivy League students this year, and Yale was the only Ivy League institution to have more than one winner.</p>
<p>Rachel Denison, Daniel Weeks, Alexander Nemser and Sarah Stillman were the recipients of Marshalls Awards. Herring declined a Marshall Scholarship to accept the Rhodes. Yale was the only Ivy League school to win more than two awards.</p>
<p>Byerly and crimsonbulldog, who really cares? This is really about Harvard vs. Yale, and we know that people are going to feel strongly about each. Stop using every forum and every piece of information in attacks on the other schools. It doesn't give good impressions of the schools you two (quite proudly evidently) represent.</p>
<p>Maybe not yale per se, but the personal attacks are getting a little out of control. Let's keep these boards for what they are meant to be, discussions about various topics about the particular school. Let's keep the personal stuff elsewhere.</p>
<p>Byerly, however, is free to boost Harvard all he wants. He may eventually realize that Harvard's decline is real and give up, though. Crimsonbulldog is free to boost Yale and insult Harvard if s/he chooses. And I am free to boost whoever I want, and so is everyone else. Who really cares, honestly? </p>
<p>The ad hominem attacks, practiced by Byerly in vicious form, is where it "gets out of control."</p>
<p>I do think that cb is once again confused about the Rhodes nominating process. I do not believe schools are limited to four nominations (so whether or not Radcliffe was considered a separate school by the time women became eligible for Rhodes scholarships in 1977 is irrelevant). The only "four" limit I'm aware of is that each of the eight regions into which the country is divided for purposes of the Rhodes competition selects four successful candidates.</p>
<p>Indeed, the last time before this year that Harvard College was shut out of the Rhodes (the only other time in the last 75 years - though it did have one student who won a Canadian Rhodes that year), the Crimson decried the fact that Harvard screens out candidates while many other schools endorse all their students who want to apply:</p>
<p>"To understand why Yale, Stanford and West Point surpassed Harvard in the American Rhodes competition, look no further than the process by which Harvard selects its candidates for the award. While well-meaning, Harvard's Rhodes endorsement competition, carried out by the college and administered by the Office of Career Services (OCS), consistently denies qualified candidates university endorsement, as Gerson himself and the Warden of Rhodes House noted on a recent visit. Even though college officials moved to address Gerson's concerns by raising the number of endorsements by 21 percent this year, so many clearly qualified candidates remained on the sidelines that it's no surprise Harvard was denied outright this time around. </p>
<p>Every fall, over 80 Harvard students apply for University endorsement, a necessary prerequisite for applying to the Rhodes scholarship itself--though many schools bypass this process and instead endorse all their applicants outright. Harvard's complex, two-tiered endorsement committee consistently rejects more than half who apply. Before getting started, these potential Rhodes Scholars are stopped in their tracks, deemed unworthy by the committee of even having a shot at the mystical award."</p>
<p>All I know is I would pay a lot to see a four-way rumble between byerly, crimsonbulldog, fscottie, and zephyr151. A HYPS melee would be an exciting event, and highly entertaining.</p>