<p>I agree that philosophy may not be a very marketable major, but what is you just want to have an academic life? If your goal is to become a member of the Department of Philosophy of some top university, it isn't such a bad idea.
Don't you think that philosophers could help the congress delete stupid laws like that the ones contained here <a href="http://www.dumblaws.com%5B/url%5D">www.dumblaws.com</a></p>
<p>How is philosophy not a marketable degree? Which degree would you say is marketable, if you feel that philosophy isn't?</p>
<p>Underwater basket weaving.</p>
<p>Cal State Chico (?) actually offered a (joke) course on that, I believe.</p>
<p>A philosophy degree is one of the if not the most marketable degrees in many areas, but like all other degrees at the Bachelors level, it doesn't matter that much what your specialization is.</p>
<p>Drab: man, you're missunderstanding me. What I was trying to say is that it might not be considered as very "entrepreneurial", but that it doesn't really matter, because you may want to become a researcher, and that's quite task. Perhaps the word "marketable" was not the best, sorry. Of course that working in a University is quite a market too. I may anticipate that a lot of people will jump on saying: well, that's not the only market. I agree and I know it, I majored in literature and I'm not jobless, I work in the marketing business, and I could be working in publishers and newspapers and media. But my point is that majoring in humanities, the best and most beautiful and precious thing you could do is research. So when people say thing like "what else can you do besides being a teacher", I feel like answering "MAN, BEING A PROFESSOR AND HAVING A PhD isn't ******** at all" If you study architecture, "what else can you do besides being an architect?" Well, you can work in starbucks, but you will prefer to actually BE an architect, ain't that true? Well, same happens with humanities, Why are we so afraid of saying: "yes, I wanna teach, so what?"</p>
<p>See, I am interested in philosophy, and I will probably major in it. I do not feel there should be a need to earn a preprofessional degree as an undergraduate, but I want to know what other fields I can study afterwards, if I decide not to go to graduate (or law) school and not to become a professor. So instead of attacking the value of a philosophy degree, I want to know what one can accomplish with one, what one can study after, what others, outside of the famous few, have done outside of philsophy.</p>
<p>Consider something related to publicity, mass media or human ressources then. those may find you useful, because you know how to understand the human mind</p>
<p>^ I think you may be confusing Philosophy and psychology</p>
<p>not at all, man, of course psychology could also help in publicity but also philosophy. Although, as I said before, the ideal job for somebody who majored in philosophy will always be academia</p>
<p>The "ideal job" really depends on the person, doesn't it? Also, some would say philosophy is the best training for law.</p>
<p>All I have to say is that my two most favorite subjects are Math and Phil at my local community college. My problem is deciding which one to major in. :(</p>
<p>I'm hooked on Philosophy even after just one Introductory Ethics class. Weird, huh?!</p>
<p>That will probably depend upon the specific departments in your cc. Or, do both :)</p>
<p>I wonder where the word "philomath" comes from :P</p>
<p>"darwin is ancient. no physicist, engineer, scientist, businessman, etc, ect. , etc., ever needed philosophy."
-Adam Smith (Father of Economics) = Philosophy Professor
-Isaac Newton (creator of calculus, widely accredited as greatest scientist ever) = Philosopher
-Descartes (Father of Modern Mathematics) = Father of Modern Philosophy
-Galileo("father of modern observational astronomy", "father of modern physics", the "father of science", and the Father of Modern Science") = philosopher
Many would also say Copernicus (created heliocentric ideas), Einstein(uhh...big scientist), and Schrodinger(quantum mecanics, kind of a stretch though) were scientists</p>
<p>Hey dude, get a clue. Philosophy is a "love of knowledge"
math majors = love of math knowledge
physics majors = love of physics and how the world works
business majors = love of money and the knowledge to acquire knowledge
and the list goes on
studying philosphy gives you a base to be whatever you want to be... plain and simple</p>
<p>p.s. have you ever noticed that since the U.S. has become so materialistic and get rich quick that people have become more depressed?</p>
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<p>You can't possibly expect to see far into your future and find out what is strictly applicable and what isn't- that futile!!!!
But consider this: At Stanford U's graduation ceremony, Steve Jobs remarked on dropping out of Reed College and taking courses "for fun" without credit. One course was Calligraphy (the art of writing in a skillful/beautiful manner). Applicable? Well according to Jobs, font options ended up being the first comparative advantage of apple computers.</p>
<p>Oh, god, I just had to skip to the last page to talk about the epic trolling going on in here.</p>
<p>Zero X may be the best troll I've ever seen. I mean, this guy has at least three accounts, all relating to stupid Japanimation shows and games, so he's obviously some Wapanese kid. Secondly, on one of his accts (g0ku), it says he attends MIT, and he makes it a point to spell nothing right and repeat the same phrase at least 4 times ("mcdonald's or homeless"). The money and women equation was gold as well.</p>
<p>And if that wasn't enough, he hits us with another troll acct (gohan) to insinuate that intro. to Calculus is a high level math course. I damn near **** myself with the hilarity. This guy's trolling game is on point in every single post. 10/10 trolling for sure.</p>
<p>people should just avoid reading threads that compare one subject to another, including me. </p>
<p>besides, math and philosophy are actually pretty related. my school even have a math: phil track.</p>
<p>"Ultimately, a philosophy degree will teach you how to think"</p>
<p>I don't like this response. All majors teach you how to think, so please don't extol Philosophy as if it is the only smart major out there. Philosophy FORCES you to think, whereas some other majors are doable with a limited amount of brain work. But then again, one can always go beyond what is required and think more, which makes all majors equal. So if you're a non-philosophy major and you think those philosophy kids are smarter than you, then you're probably not going full-out in your own major.</p>
<p>Everyone is a philosopher...
But not everyone is a Mathematician/Engineer/Doctor/...
If you ever think before you did anything, you used philosophy.
Read Sophie's World..
I did that in my beginning Theory of Knowledge course.
Sometimes I felt that the class was full of BS..
and I understand Zero's understanding of philosophy.
I'm right now taking IB Further Level Mathematics.. and I love it
Especially the Geometry section with special theorems like Ceva's, Appolonous's and Euler's Nine Point Circle.
From my experience, trying to learn Philosophy at an institution just doesn't work.
You can't be graded on philosophy.
I mean you can't just memorize facts of philosophers from before..
To understand philosophy, is to understand's one's existence.
The only thing I can say is that Philosophy sometimes has it's limitations as everyone has their own perspectives and understanding of knowledge (a justified true belief)
All I can say is that Philosophy cannot truly be a separate degree but should be rather a part of everyone's daily lifes... unless the person desparately wants to memorize theories.
I rest my case</p>