May 2011 - US History Post-Test Discussion

<p>The question was definitely worded along the lines of “Based on the graph” or “according to the graph” i.e. you could only use the information given by the graph, which was strictly recording population.
Birth rate isn’t the only way a population grows… it just wouldn’t be fair for that to be the answer.</p>

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-ACTTester</p>

<p>Because as I said, when I first mentioned it on here I wasn’t sure if there was a specific time we could discuss them (I didn’t really listen to the proctor when she talked about that). So going by yesterday’s APUSH test I thought I couldn’t, but I knew there was a possibility I could possibly discuss them after a certain time because these are SATs, not APs. So that’s why I asked if I could discuss it after a certain time. So far there hasn’t been total consensus on whether or not there we can discuss it after a certain time, so if it turns out we can, I’ll gladly post it.</p>

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-simo14</p>

<p>No, but there is a clear consequence here since they told us not to discuss it (I’m still not sure if there’s a time limit on that). </p>

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-SelfIndulgent</p>

<p>Nah, I legit started it almost immediately after I got home because I was considering canceling my score. So I quickly put down as many as I could remember (~50) and checked here for other questions I may have missed (~30). I was hoping to see clearly how many I had gotten wrong, etc.</p>

<p>The word NEARLY, to me, implies 1.5x or more. The first change was clearly 2x, then the next was x1.7 or so, then the next was around there as well. That should be good enough for anyone.</p>

<p>What years were the graph covering? I don’t remember :P</p>

<p>Birth rate being higher than death rate, or a natural increase in immigration, is when population grows. That’s pretty self explanatory. Birth rate= death rate means no growth. Birth rate< death rate means decline. It was increasing obviously, meaning a high birth rate had in part something to do with it. I remember something like the average new england family had 8 kids or something. You’re right, birth rates were not directly mentioned via the graph. But its still common sense -___- you don’t need a graph to know that</p>

<p>@selfindulgent ya thats tru plus “The spectacular gains in population during this period were the result of two factors: immigration of almost a million people and a sharp natural increase, caused CHEIFLY by a high birthrate among colonial families.” quoted from AMSCO book.</p>

<p>Also, as for the graph one, as I said I won’t discuss the question, but just know that according to released exams from the past (both SATII and AP for USH), on questions with graphs, even if it says “using this graph” or “this graph suggests” or etc., the correct answer doesn’t ONLY have to come from the graph. It could involve “outside knowledge” that is just affirmed by the graph.</p>

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You’re making this a bigger deal than it needs to be. If you want to share it, but don’t want to post it yourself, then PM it to someone and have him/her post it in your place.</p>

<p>No born2dance, that isn’t true.
There was a political cartoon with an elephant divided by a moose= democrats. The answer was simple- division of democrats by the progressive party allowed democrats(Wilson) to win. I put something like Wilson combined ideals of both. And while that is true(he’s not entirely radical, he’s not entirely conservative), it wasn’t given in the cartoon itself so it was wrong.</p>

<p>Honestly, it all rides on CollegeBoard’s definition of “nearly”… as someone stated earlier, they (are supposed to) make questions that all have a clear-cut answer, given that you know the information and context and whatnot. I highly doubt they would have made the doubling answer the wrong one because of the ambiguous wording… to some people, 1.5x is nearly double. Others rejected it because it wasn’t exactly x2. That’s the kind of controversy I would have thought the test-makers would want to avoid.</p>

<p>what is the score for missing 20 questions?</p>

<p>@nostalgicwisdom I guess it depends on the situation. One of the exams from a few years ago had only a map with the statistics of number of something or other in different regions. The correct answer was about how a certain law or act or something is what caused the effect of those numbers. Even though the question clearly stated: According to the picture/map/graph/whatever they referred to it as</p>

<p>Born2dance, maybe in that situation, the other answers had no possibility of being right. In today’s test, we honestly do have a question that could have gone both ways… it depends how loosely they were using the term “nearly.”</p>

<p>SelfIndulgent- I think I’ll report it for ambiguousness. If you just saw the first year yes it was DOUBLED (.5–>1) and that’s most people have put. The rate hovered at around 1.5x which does average out to 2x. But the high birthrate low death rate isn’t unjustified either, because it is historically true(the AMSCO quote is really there, I just checked)</p>

<p>If its x2(more likely), the science kids missed it due to ambiguity about what 2x really meant. (1.5x is not the same as 2x in my, and many others’, books)
If its high birth rate, again comes the ambiguity of whether its a close 2x or whether its an exact 2x.</p>

<p>@mt101…
It’s a 700 even.</p>

<p>I just remembered two more questions. One was a picture of housing in Georgia before and after the Civil War and the question asked you to analyze it. The answer was that freed slaves did not move far from the plantations they used to work on. A similar question asked about sharecropping and the answer was that planters rented out land and took a percentage of the crop each year. Not particularly difficult questions, but I don’t think we mentioned them.</p>

<p>In other news, Senior Member! Woot! :D</p>

<p>That’s what I put, and also that 's what I put. They were both pretty easy xD</p>

<p>And some people may have been further put off from using outside information because the question DID say to refer/use/whatever the graph… it was just a bad question haha. :/</p>

<p>Oh and way to remember those questions. :slight_smile: I got them as well.</p>

<p>@nostalgicwisdom</p>

<p>hold on… what is this question… how come I don’t remember it</p>

<p>was chinese immigrants gold rush or free land?</p>