MAY SAT Discussion

<p>ya the question was: </p>

<p>what does paragraph 3 imply
(and paragraph 3 was the one about the people in a room, and when the actors yawned, other people would begin to/ when people are watching a movie and the people in the movie yawn, the audience will yawn to"</p>

<p>the answer choices were like:</p>

<p>the pyshology of conformity
the power of suggestion
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<p>the answer is power of suggest?
hrm...................</p>

<p>thats what i got...but i definitely could be wrong</p>

<p>another one was the need for campionship.</p>

<p>i put that as my answer lawl</p>

<p>hmmmm well i think we've discussed every hard question.</p>

<p>its "power of suggestion"</p>

<p>I tracked down the shopkeepers passage on Google:</p>

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All along the burnished footpaths of Greek Street, the shopkeepers are out already, the second wave of early risers. Of course they regard themselves as the first wave. The grim procession of slopworkers and factory drudges Caroline looked down on from her window, though it happened only a few hundred yards from here less than an hour ago, might as well have happened in another country in another age. Civilisation begins at Greek Street. Welcome to the real world.</p>

<p>Getting up as early as the shopkeepers do is, in their view, stoic heroism beyond the understanding of lazier mortals. Any creature scurrying about earlier than themselves must be a rodent or an insect, which traps and poisons have regrettably failed to kill.</p>

<p>Not that they are cruel, these industrious men. Many of them are kinder souls than the people you came here to meet, those exalted leading players you're so impatient to be introduced to. It's just that the shopkeepers of Greek Street care nothing about the shadowy creatures who actually manufacture the goods they sell. The world has outgrown its quaint rural intimacies, and now it's the modern age: an order is put in for fifty cakes of Coal Tar Soap, and a few days later, a cart arrives and the order is delivered. How that soap came to exist is no question for a modern man. Everything in this world issues fully-formed from the loins of a benign monster called manufacture; a never-ending stream of objects - of graded quality, of perfect uniformity - from an orifice hidden behind veils of smoke.</p>

<p>You may point out that the clouds of smut from the factory chimneys of Hammersmith and Lambeth blacken all the city alike, a humbling reminder of where the cornucopia really comes from. But humility is not a trait for the modern man, and filthy air is quite good enough for breathing; its only disadvantage is the film of muck that accumulates on shop windows.</p>

<p>But what use is there, the shopkeepers sigh, in nostalgia for past times? The machine age has come, the world will never be clean again, but oh: what compensation!</p>

<p>Already they're working up a sweat, their only sweat for the day, as they labour to open their shops. They ease the tainted frost from the windows with sponges of lukewarm water and sweep the slush into the gutter with stiff brooms. Standing on their toes, stretching their arms, they strip off the shutters, panels, iron bars and stanchions that have kept their goods safe another night. All along the street, keys rattle in keyholes as each shop's ornate metal clothing is stripped away.</p>

<p>The men are in a hurry now, in case someone with money should come along and choose a wide-open shop over a half-open one. Passersby are few and often queer at this hour of the morning, but all types may stray into Greek Street and there's no telling who'll spend.

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<p>The passage was apparently from The Crimson Petal and the White by Michel Faber. I wonder how ETS finds these books.</p>

<p>The passage on the May 5 test seems to have been edited slightly from this passage, but the meaning seems to be intact.</p>

<p>The third paragraph apparently still refers to the factory workers ("shadowy creatures"). In fact, this is one piece of evidence to support "dismissive" as the attitude the shopkeepers have towards the factory workers for a previous question. Now, for the question asking about the phrase "benign monster," a case may still be made for "sympathy for the factor workers." We see in the phrases "care nothing about the shadowy creatures," "outgrown its quaint rural intimacies" (implying that the shopkeepers, and people in general, don't care to know the workers), and "how that soap came to exist is no question for the modern man" an expression of some sympathy for the workers and the indifference of the "modern man" for what they endure to produce the goods. Finally, "benign monster" may imply that the workers are subjected to harsh and grueling working conditions (after all, they do rise earlier than even the shopkeepers), about which most people don't care.</p>

<p>What do you think??</p>

<p>hurray! got both of them right
i heard if you get 4 wrong on each section then it's a 650???</p>

<p>I did not choose "power of suggestion" for the reasoning why people yawn when actors yawn because I interpreted 'suggestion' as a verbal proposal and not a physical proposal. I also did not choose "the pyshology of conformity" or "people's need for companionship" either. I must have selected one of the remaining two choices, though now I do think "power of suggestion" is the best answer.</p>

<p>i was stuck between power of suggestion and link between personality and behavior, i guessed the latter</p>

<p>Yeah, I selected "a link between personality and behavior," but it would only make sense if it was "a link between psychology and behavior."</p>

<p>"Power of suggestion" makes the most sense.</p>

<p>omg i picked the personality and behavior one...
x______x</p>

<p>"yeah yawning made others yawn"
Hee, it made me yawn =)</p>

<p>As for the "benign monster" one, I chose the option about the manufacturing process... Although I could see how someone could interpret it to describe the terrible working conditions of the workers... in context, that just doesn't apply.</p>

<p>I chose the option about the manufacturing process too, I thought that was an easy one, no?</p>

<p>It's def. more than a 650 if you get 4 wrong on a section.</p>

<p>ya if you get 4 wrong in critical reading its often above 750...</p>

<p>also...for the last question in the greek street passage:</p>

<p>"The last paragraph implies that..."</p>

<p>was it that "the shopkeepers are eager to open up their shops"?</p>

<p>if you get 4 wrong on a critical reading its usually around 750.</p>

<p>i got eager too.</p>

<p>same here....I got 4 for both # 2 and 3....the 3rd one could be 1, 2 or 4</p>

<p>eager to open up their shop????
omg i chose sth like arrival of customers.
i suck.</p>

<p>k1zuna, i think it was the arrival of customers...</p>