I am a little bit confused about these two schools. I have been accepted to Mc Gill university for management studies (At desautels faculty) and to Warwick university in international management ! But I don’t know which one I should choose. Some people told me that Mc Gill is amazing because it’s one of the ten best universities in the world (Its reputation in medicine is amazing) but others told me that in management, warwick is much better compared to Mcgill ! Anyone of you knows warwick or Mc Gill uni ? Should I go to warwick or not ?
Warwick university is in england, near the city of coventry( small city but the weather is good). Contrary to Warwick, Mc gill is in Montreal, a wonderful city but unfortunately, it’s a cold city…
I really need help to choose my uni, thanks all of you !
They both are very good schools and it HIGHLY depends on where you want to end up. This isn’t just a matter of Michigan versus Wisconsin. You would be in a different country and would most likely have to stay in that country for at least a little bit after graduation. Would you rather be in Canada or England?
No, I’m not english or canadian, I’m french and moroccan ! Of course, I would rather be in England (Or france, usa… but I don’t think that I will stay in Canada!) But does that mean that if I go to Mcgill, I will have to stay in Canada ? Do you think that with mcgill I can work in Europe for example ? And with Warwick, Is it possible to work in usa ?
Do you have French citizenship? If so, you are an EU citizen and can easily work in London. In which case, if your goal is finance or consulting (working in the City or something like that), Warwick is the slam-dunk decision.
Outside of a handful of schools (HYPSM+Oxbridge for undergrad&maybeUTokyo; the M7 b-schools for MBAs) there are very few schools with enough global cachet that they would give you a leg up everywhere in the world.
Warwick has quite strong recruiting for finance and consulting in London/the UK. Just below Oxbridge (with UCL, LSE, Imperial, etc.)
In the US, more people would have heard of McGill than Warwick (who almost no one will have heard of), but I daresay most would still put McGill below the 15 or so American Ivies&equivalents (with a whole host of schools like UMich, UVa, etc.) and many would not have heard of McGill either.
I don’t know whether McGill or Warwick would be respected more in France.
But if you do not plan to work in Canada, then (unless McGill is far more highly esteemed than Warwick in France), Warwick is the easy decision. One is definitely a target school in one of your 3 preferred countries. The other one (unless McGill is in France, and I doubt it is put on the level of the ecoles) is not.
Thank you for your answer ! It helps me a lot ! Yes I have a french citizenship so working in france or england will be completely easy ! Do you know if Warwick is a good university ? When I say “good”, I mean the athmosphere, people …
Plus, do you know if international management is a good option at warwick uni if I want to work, later, in london or anywhere else ? (and not finance and accounting)
Warwick is an amazing university, by the way. Congratulations! I’ve never visited, but, like you said, it’s in a really bucolic and peaceful environment.
McGill enjoys a tremendous reputation in France and for a bilingual French citizen it’s amazingly easy to find a job in Québec and get permanent residency, then get Canadian citizenship - this is an advantage not to be denied for someone who wants to work in the US.
Cost-wise, with the new Quebec increase, both would cost about the same.
Warwick enjoys great placement in the City but international management there is no slouch either.
Desautels enjoys great placement in North America as well.
The biggest difference is with location: large cosmopolitan city vs. college town, North America vs. the UK.
I would imagine cultures will be quite different from France’s and Morocco’s, with Warwick’s being closer to France, and Québec’s closer the the North American cultural system and thus more different. It depends whether you’re looking for “not too far from what you know” or “let’s go for something totally different”.
As for weather, an advisee from France once told me “i worried so much about cold, but the good news is that cold is cold, you don’t care if it’s 10 or -10.” You buy proper clothes (down jacket with fur-trimmed hood, gloves and mittens, muffler and scarf, long underwear ) and get used to it.
In Warwick, you’ll buy rainboots, a nice slicker, and a sunlight “therapy” lamp.
So the difference is between mild and humid, and very cold and sunny/bright (305 sunny days per year, 44% bright sunshine). Temperaments and preferences will vary on this, it’s really personal.
See if you’d get University Accomodations (and how) at Warwick, or whether you’d be placed in a residence at McGill. Email The Office of International Students at McGill, and the general Housing/Accomodations office at Warwick. Your second year you’ll likely live with classmates in an apartment/flat in town regardless of where you go, but being part of the residences helps when you arrive.
In addition, note that your Warwick admission is conditional and rests on your bac grades (especially in math): Last year, an advisee had a 14 maths for her condition, got 13.5, and lost her place in July.
Check to see if your McGill admission is conditional and what the conditions are.
@MYOS1634, I would say that placement will be very different for these 2 schools as well. I don’t know about France, but Warwick is definitely far better for the UK while McGill is far better for Canada.
Coventry isn’t really a college town, but Warwick is more bucolic. Not sure Canadian citizenship is a big advantage for working in the US but I’ll take your word for it. A little misleading to say that Desautels enjoys great placement in N America. As we both know, Americans tend to be pretty insular, so outside of the Oxbridge/UTokyo-level, most foreign schools wouldn’t even register.
American firms consider McGill “the Canadian Harvard” like Waterloo is considered the “Canadian MIT”. Whether this is true or not is debatable but McGill typically enjoys greater immediate recognition than other equally good universities. American Hr managers may not have heard of Williams or Harvwy-Mudd overall, but those who matter to OP will, just as they will know of McGill. Any firm willing to spring for a contract will know McGill.
Eh. In the sense that UMich is the Harvard of Michigan, UW-Madison is the Harvard of Wisconsin, and UVa is the Harvard of Virginia (for that matter, UF is the Harvard of Florida).
Even that isn’t quite true. I’d put UToronto at the same level as McGill. So they’re really just the Harvard of Quebec.
It’s a state school with a good reputation, and I’d put McGill & UToronto somewhere at or between UMich, UVa, and UW-Madison. They each clearly are the best unis in their state/province. For working in the US, I’d take UMich or UVa over the other 3, however.
BTW, even if you say McGill is the Harvard of Canada (population of 35M), UMich is the Harvard of the Upper Midwest (which I’ll define as MI+WI+MN+SD+ND+IA+NE: population: 28M).
In any case, the OP can easily work in the UK and France, less easily work in the US, and seems to have no interest in working in Canada. In the UK, Warwick is the easy winner hands down. In the US, McGill has an edge (Warwick is almost unknown), but with the difficulties of working here compared to in Europe, I think that’s only a small benefit. Which means McGill has an advantage in recruiting only if it has as big an edge over Warwick in France as Warwick does over McGill in the UK (which I doubt, but I could be wrong).
One big advantage of McGill, though (to me, anyway), is that while Canadian unis are generally not as flexible in their curriculum as American ones, they are far more flexible than English ones. That means that you may take a good number of classes outside your major or even switch majors. IMO, that’s a benefit when you are considering what type of education to get. English unis are good at producing specialists. Only. However, most people switch not only jobs but multiple industries/career paths throughout their career. Something to keep in mind. Also, how sure are most teenagers about what their true interests are in or what they want to do?
Hello, thanks for all your answers ! i don’t really know what to choose because I dont really know where I want to work later (but not it canada, its too cold!) so maybe I will choose warwick. But warwick is situated in a small city (Coventry or even royal leamington spa), and it is not really amazing ! But like you said, it’s a conditional offer, it depends if I have 15 overall at the french BAC !
I always thought Japanese higher ed was insular and very few UTokyo undergraduates would even try to get jobs outside Japan (because the Japanese job market for college graduates is a job market where school-wide prestige is the primary criterion for fresh-out-of-college applicants, much more so than in the US, UK or France) simply because very few non-Japanese even attend UTokyo in the first place, and even less from Europe or NA.
@catria, UTokyo is the top school in a major economy where prestige matters, so it certainly deserves to be put in the same category as HYPSM and Oxbridge (and X of France). People in the know in the US, I would say, recognize UTokyo’s status (more so than McGill, IMO).
BTW, faculty/department prestige also matters in Japan.
